Headteacher and five staff suspended!

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Have name changed so not to out myself. My children go here :(
I received a letter and that is it. Teachers will not really speak about it to me. What do I do?? Reading the attitudes of the other members of staff "What are teachers supposed to do?" Does not reassure me. Advice? Thoughts? Anyone..

we were gossiping, not disclosing personal medical files etc

The fact that it was 'merely' gossip doesn't make it any better at all!

Your friend has behaved very unethically.

Amber surely it is up to the school in the firts place - some of the parents may have no idea unless their child has mentioned it.

and I didn't mean learning educationally particularly - I meant what are the learning about fitting into society? With the best will in the world, children with special needs will grow up and need a place. Will employers make special arrangements?- I shouldn't think they will. I am sure that there will be parents desperately worried about what happens after school so what is the likely outcome?- do the interventions actually work and deliver someone capable of coping or what?

Read zzzzzs post, she puts it well regarding what are they learning.

Will employers make special arrangements?, I shouldn't think they will

The disability discrimination act says they must make reasonable adjustments so yes.

I am sure that there will be parents desperately worried about what happens after school so what is the likely outcome?- do the interventions actually work and deliver someone capable of coping or what?

Yes that is a massive worry. only 15% of adults with autism are in employment, Im hoping that my son makes that 15% and that that number will increase over time.

What would make it easier is if other parents of children without any SNs could have a bit of understanding and ensure that their children do too.

Children with SNs are statistically more likely to be bullied than be a bully, as a parent I see it as my job to make sure my children do their best to be good classmates and not to discriminate against children with difficulties. its very easy to do this, it just requires a bit of empathy.

what is the likely outcome?- do the interventions actually work and deliver someone capable of coping or what?

There will be lots of young adults that will always need support though, if children without SNs learn that they need to be understanding of people with SNs while they are young, then hopefully that will filter through to when they are adults, then I wont have to worry so much about the high chance of my son being attacked just for being a bit different.

My eldest is borderline for aspergers and was bullied for years in primary, moved to a different school for secondary and loving it - however, I see it that it is him with our support that needs to fit in rather than everyone else that needs to fit round him iyswim his issues are mainly social though so will come across as shy rather than anything else. Hope your son does well too.

goldenbear you may criticise a particular method I use as a parent but please do not make a complete categorical judgment on my parenting as a whole based on the use of one method.

Any credibility you may have had in convincing me otherwise has just vanished. It may have been wise to ask what form of timeout I use, for how long, under what circumstances etc....

I've seen some nasty things said on here but to call someone incompetent using one criteria is ridiculous.

Thanks.

I get what you mean about him needing to fit in rather than others fitting round him, but firstly there will come a day when he wont have your support to fit in and will have to manage on his own, that will be made easier if society as a whole is more open to difference and doesn't expect the impossible from people with SNs.

Adults on the autistic spectrum are very prone to isolation and depression, that is partially caused by a society that is not understanding of difference.

I see my goals as helping my son cope with life and everything it throws at him, but also doing whatever I can to improve understanding.

z's my comparison was at a basic level that toddlers and we as adults sometimes need time to cool down. Removing a person from potential further harm to themselves or others is a commonly use strategy. But that is where the comparison ends, I was pointing it out as a principle.

The detail of how and when this is done is something entirely different.

I never said I shut anyone in a cupboard or condoned it. I would like to believe there must be many details that we are not aware of regarding the little boy at school and I don't believe such a decision would be take lightly.

At my last school a teacher lost it and locked a whole class in herself included until and issue was resolved. She clearly over stepped the mark and and she acknowledged this herself she was let go.

It's a scary thought them being grown up, but i don't see his future as any different than it always was. He is very clever, loves computers and engineering and drawing. He is now at a more academic school so fits in better - he will likely go for a boffin type career so he will fit in in his society. I think it will be unlikely that he will be down the nite clubs trying to connect that way - there is a place for everyone I think.

But everyone has to conform to the basic society norms for behaviour (e.g. non violent/not destroying property etc) at some point or they will find themselves locked up in some way or another. I see that as what the school in the origin of this post was trying to do.

Feelingood, it is not my place to convince you otherwise but I don't understand what is 'nasty' about a view I hold, it is not personal to you. I think it is an incompetent approach because it is applied in an arbitrary way with no understanding of child development at a toddler age. It is completely unnecessary to put a toddler in 'time out', they are so young, it is awful.

Obviously I don't know your son, but as you say he is without a diagnosis and borderline, then Im guessing he doesn't have the same severity of difficulties as my son and many others.

I agree that everyone has to conform, but that in our society there is little tolerance of those that find conformity a challange for various reasons which are rarely willfull.

I see that as what the school in the origin of this post was trying to do

I see their alleged actions as doing a very bad job of it though. obviously that way is not seen as productive and that is why it is illegal.

but golden you made it personal and nasty - each to their own until it impacts on others I say. I just don't want to be the parent of the child that hits people in soft play and gets a cuddle and sent back in. A toddler can understand that if he/she hits then they don't get to play for a little while and if they don't hit they get to play without being taken out. I bet they understand that better than being talked to about how it isn't nice - though I hope they get that too while they are sat out.

Well the authorities haven't really come up with a method of discipline that works and is acceptable. Have they? They do not give enough support to teachers handling extremely difficult and challenging behaviour. It's all swept under the carpet.

amck, no I didn't. I said it is incompetent because it is. If you want to do that with your toddler, still in the throes of babyhood that is your choice but it is not a competent way to deal with that age group. Take some time to establish what you toddler can and can't understand and don't have unrealistic expectations. I blame all these silly child rearing programmes for this practice.

I disagree - you told another poster that she was an incompetent parent, that's the way she took it and I took it - so what wasn't personal about that? As I say, each to their own. so what specifically do you do then? - it's easy to critise others but if you have the answer then surely you should share.

What is the toddler doing, exactly? What is a timeout? Is it sitting on the naughty step or similar?

...and if you don't teach them then their understanding wont move on will it so they will remain at a baby stage.

op - you have my every sympathy

the school staff apear to have acted to stop an out-of-control child rampaging round the school with a knife - but they are in the wrong, apparantly

is the child back in the school? is so, i would be tempted to take my kids out for a couple of days - and make it clear i would not let them go to school till i was certain of their safety

I thought I would update you. There was no knife involved at all it has been confirmed today. www.blackpool.gov.uk/News/BlackpoolCouncilstatementonRevoeSchool.htm
and my children went to school today :) Thank you for all your support I will up date when I know more. At the minute it is still under investigation