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What would you think if this was happening in your y3 child's class?

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RunnersWorld · 09/02/2013 15:13

And what, if anything, would you do?

One of the children is very disruptive, including bouts of physical and verbal violence, e.g.:

-Throwing chairs
-Swearing at the class and teacher
-Tearing up his own and others' work
-Pacing around the class when they are supposed to be working/listening
-Walking out of class meaning the teacher has to leave to bring him back
-There have also been two complaints from children/parents about him touching girls inappropriately (now has 121 at lunchtimes, so is constantly watched)

At least one from this list happens daily, once it was so extreme that the teacher had to remove the rest of the class from the room while two TA's tried to calm him. School was unable to contact anyone to collect him so he spent the rest of the day in the Head's office, as the TA basically refused to work with him. He's big for his age, strong and scary when he loses control.

My DS2 is in this class. I know all the detail because of my job, most parents of course will only have patchy stories relayed by their DC, but they all know there is a problem. To avoid drip feeding, I will also say I know that he is a very damaged child as a result of sexual abuse and currently living with a foster family. Other parents know nothing of this of course.

I am interested in an opinion from the POV of the parents who know nothing of his background, please.

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MrsDeVere · 10/02/2013 18:23

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mrz · 10/02/2013 18:33

Well to start with I don't have a class TA (to be diverted) and the child in my class who requires 100% 1-1 support including at lunch times has been allocated 1-1 for 100% because that is what she needs. Sheis developmentally around 22months and severly brain damaged

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Viviennemary · 10/02/2013 18:34

Is this an actual situation? If so is it wise to discuss such a problem with those details on an open forum.

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lisad123everybodydancenow · 10/02/2013 18:35

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mrz · 10/02/2013 18:37

non verbal, incontinent, unable to move without help, unable to eat without help, limited vision, unable to sit unaided ...yes the 1-1 support can go off and help other non statemented children Hmm

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Floggingmolly · 10/02/2013 18:42

if I read the op and wondered if she was talking about my child or a child in my care, a quick search could give me the answer
Confused. Seriously? How?
Approx 99% of posts on this forum relate to someone either related to or known to the op in question in some way. Does this "quick search" stretch to indentifying the subject of any post chosen at random? Wow!
This one could well apply to a child at one of the schools my kids attend, but I have no way of knowing. The scenario is not all that uncommon, sadly.

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mrz · 10/02/2013 18:48

True Floggingmolly

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hazeyjane · 10/02/2013 18:53

Whether the child is identifiable or not, I don't think it is right to talk about a child that you know in a professional capacity. It would break my heart to see a post talking about a child like ds with frowny faces and all, and be thinking that they could be talking about my child.

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HotheadPaisan · 10/02/2013 19:11

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mrz · 10/02/2013 19:14

most of the faces were sad which I took to be sympathy for a difficult situation all around

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EnjoyResponsibly · 10/02/2013 19:18

I'd feel sorry for the boy, but also want to ensure duty of care was appropriate to all the children.

I'd also make damn sure you were sacked from your job for cause as you clearly are unable not to keep private information pertaining to children confidential.

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MrsDeVere · 10/02/2013 19:23

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mrz · 10/02/2013 19:27

The TA with the child is not fully funded MrsDeVere ...the pot load of money you so glibly mentioned tops up the huge shortfall in the cost of providing such support because the funding that accompanies a "higherend" statement is a fraction of the actual cost to support a child.

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HotheadPaisan · 10/02/2013 19:38

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mrz · 10/02/2013 19:46

It is for schools to decide how to use their funding but they need to fund up to the first 15 hours of Teaching Assistant (TA) support for children with Statements of SEN. The local authority then funds any necessary additional hours and once allocations of support in a Statement exceed 25 hours the local authority fully funds the Statement. The DfE want a more effective, sustainable system for funding pupils and students who require high levels of specialist educational support and so have developed a new system whereby the schools must fund support for all Statements, even those over 25 hours of TA support.

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mrz · 10/02/2013 19:47

As you probably know SEN funding changes from April 2013

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inappropriatelyemployed · 10/02/2013 19:54

Mrz - not all LAs fund statements the same way. Some use high/low incidence statements, some use banding and LAs delegate different levels of funding to schools. Some will delegate this first 5 hours, others 15.

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inappropriatelyemployed · 10/02/2013 19:56

As you say, this is subject to change in April but, here again, different LAs are dealing with this in different ways.

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