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Stop Schools Cheating Please

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twiggles · 20/01/2013 11:17

Whatever your child is like, some primary schools and nurseries are pretending children start off at the low end, so they can pretend to inspectors of private and state schools that the child has developed only because of their teaching. If your child's advanced , some schools in rich areas take it out on the child. They won't bother giving the child attention, because the child's advanced, so they let the child coast downwards. But they give reports in writing about the child that pretend the child has started off at a low point in development and then got much better because of the teaching at the school....when the fact is the child was able to read or write when the child started at the school and as the school is giving the child little attention, the child has coasted downwards. Tha's what many schools do so they can pretend they've developed everything in the child, they want all children to be the same standard, like a photocopier. Poor children. Some teachers admit they're cheating and don't take the reports seriously and write them to impress inspectors. This is happending all over the show and I can't understand why inspectors are allowing them to get away with it. If parents start grading teachers in the school every three months the teachers won't be able to hide what's going on to the inspectors and teachers who are pretending might stop. Teachers that aren't giving inspectors the facts need to be stopped...they're not giving children an honest education.

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ninah · 20/01/2013 17:09

when's this thread going to kick off then?

mrz · 20/01/2013 17:13

bugga it's a cull I've been deleted too? and I didn't even call twiggles an idiot (can MN read minds?)

Feenie · 20/01/2013 17:14

twiggles, I'm a parent who is concerned by what you have written. Please can you give us at least an inkling about why you think this is happening and what evidence there is that can be pursued.

She can't. Obviously.

Feenie · 20/01/2013 17:16

Lmao off at mrz's deletion Grin Grin Grin

pointythings · 20/01/2013 17:17

Grin cumbrialass. And ninah too.

Anything, what I said in my original post was a simple request for evidence followed by an assertion that as a parent whose DDs have been very well served by their teachers, including differentiation because their are able, I don't recognise what the OP stated as a common problem.

The teachers on this thread aren't being defensive, they are raising genuine concerns about the concept of teachers being graded by parents based on the children's feedback - very valid ones, I might add. I've met a lot of parents in my time - some of them would provide useful and reasonable feedback, others - very much not. A blanket 'let parents be the judge' system would cause all kinds of problems.

pointythings · 20/01/2013 17:18

mrz join the club. I'm feeling a warm glow of inclusion here, perhaps we should start a quiche?

Feenie · 20/01/2013 17:18
Grin
mrz · 20/01/2013 17:18

I may try for a second just for the satisfaction of telling twiggles Grin

Bunnyjo · 20/01/2013 17:23

That's what I cannot understand. It's fine to make very sweeping and derogatory generalisations about a profession, even asking what qualifications those professionals hold, implying they're less qualified than their European counterparts! But you cannot question the OP's motive, ask for proof of her claims or imply her ideas are less than half-baked without being deleted Confused

FelicityWasCold · 20/01/2013 17:24

OP all schools are assessed already (Private schools and ISI (independent schools inspectorate, State have OFSTED- Although the two regulators do also work together).

The only objection we are raising is with being assessed by non-professionals who are not in a position to judge professionals.

Will you please answer some of the questions being out to you on here. You are rather shooting your argument in the foot by not engaging with criticism of your own ideas.

41notTrendy · 20/01/2013 17:25

Thought I'd have another look to see if OP has bothered to substantiate her opinion yet. Nope. And despite numerous others contradicting many of her points, OP still forging ahead. And sounding even more deranged.

ShipwreckedAndComatose · 20/01/2013 17:27

Evidence??? As a parent, I would like to view and evaluate it for myself rather than just take your word for it.

Me thinks twiggles is very bored of snow.... Hmm

mrz · 20/01/2013 17:33

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ShipwreckedAndComatose · 20/01/2013 17:34

Ooh! You are sooo going to get deleted again!!! Grin Grin

Labro · 20/01/2013 17:35

Substitute 'some' for 'one' as the evidence suggests that the OP has unfortunately had a bad experience relating to her own child and then generalised it to a national level

pointythings · 20/01/2013 17:35

mrz that isn't fair, you're going to score your second without making a real effort!

And will nobody think of poor Feenie who hasn't had a deletion gong yet?

OP, where are yoooooo? We would still like some evidence, pretty please.

mrz · 20/01/2013 17:46

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ShipwreckedAndComatose · 20/01/2013 17:48

She's certainly hit my nerve Grin

pointythings · 20/01/2013 17:52

mrz! Stop it, or I will give you a detention!!! Grin

mrz · 20/01/2013 17:52

pointy Feenie isn't even trying Grin

Feenie · 20/01/2013 17:55

I wasn't - I went for passive-aggressive with Thanks.

Grin
mrz · 20/01/2013 17:59

she'll only eat them!

ShipwreckedAndComatose · 20/01/2013 18:01

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Feenie · 20/01/2013 18:02

Grin Grin @ mrz

mrz · 20/01/2013 18:05

No trolls eat goats!