phonics help for me please!

[Ispywith]

My DD is in year 1 and doing well with her reading and phonics (i have been doing well also up to this point)! She has been saying what they have learnt at school last week and she is talking of the sound "zh". She said it is in the word treasure etc. I have looked up lists of words on-line and have come across visual, conclusion, pleasure . If it is words with ure, sion, ual is that the bit we teach them to sound out as zh? I thought 'ure' 'sion' were sounds already (if that makes sense). Bit confused, please help!

Any help?

www.mrthorne.com/?s=Zh

In visual, conclusion and pleasure the "zh" is the spelling in azure the spelling represents the sound "zh"

sounds-write.co.uk/docs/sounds_write_common_spellings_of_the_consonants_and_vowels.pdf

Not many English words have the /zh/ sound:

Asia, Indonesia,

invasion, occasion,
decision, division, precision, provision, supervision, vision (television)
explosion,

conclusion, confusion, diffusion, illusion.

Casual, usual,

exposure, leisure, measure, pleasure, treasure.

Azure, bourgeois, fissure.

Masha Bell

Not many English words have the /zh/ sound:

ge - courgette, collage, mirage, triage, visage, garage, massage, beige, rouge, montage, prestige, corsage

z - seizure

s - fusion, erosion, visual

Best update your lists quickly, Masha.

Thanks for those Feenie.

A few of them are relatively common. Some have become more so recently (e.g. 'courgette' instead of 'baby marrow').

'Visage' and 'garage' most people now pronounce with a /j/ sound rather than /zh/.
Foreign imports take a while to acquire a regular pronunciation.

These are all from French, as u no doubt know:
courgette, collage, mirage, triage, visage, garage, massage, beige, rouge, montage, prestige, corsage.

'courgette' instead of 'baby marrow' It isn't a baby marrow it's a variety of marrow and that is it's size!

it's a variety of marrow and that is it's size!

They grow pretty big if you don't pick them. I've come back from holiday to find giant courgettes

There are slight differences between marrows and courgettes - thickness of skin and how they grow

Imagine how big they would have been had they been marrows maizieD

Thank you! Trying to get my head round it, think my DD is much better at phonics then I am!

There are slight differences between marrows and courgettes - thickness of skin and how they grow

If u don't pick courgettes when they are small, they grow into marrows. Having been away for a bit, I have a pile of the latter right now.

But back to the topic of this post.
Not many common English words have the /zh/ sound. Most come from French. Quite a few of those that still have a French pronunciation can be triky for children
e.g. 'college - collage', 'message - massage', 'miracle - mirage'.

If you don't pick courgettes when they are small they grow into big courgettes not marrows!

But back to the topic of this post.

Ooooh, nooooo...courgettes are far more interesting than your thoughts on English spelling, masha

Did you know only female courgette flowers grow into courgettes (if fertilised)

Did you know that courgette flowers are supposedly very nice dipped in a light batter and deep fried?

It's true they are!

but you should only do that to the males

zh?

Don't you pronounce treasure treje-ure

It's the sound that starts the French word jette (to jump)

ʒ- "zh" can be written/spelt in English and or in French