defering reception and using preschool/nursery?

[mam29]

Anyone actually done this.

as in defered childs spetemebr reception place started later and contunued with their preschool nursery?

Would this work?

As thinking be better for younger child in year as gets to

socialise
better smaller ration of staff to children
learning through play-just like reception.
some kids might be weeks or months difference in age due to cut off.

might be easier for working parents

full time mums-staggered starts can be a pain
part time mums-get to spend more time with kids
sahm-totally workable .

as im sure early years miantaincae grant pays up until age 4.

In Bristol while this is technically an option, the schools won't hold "your" place (not least they aren't getting paid) and with places a premium it makes it a non-starter as far as I can see.

Also you child would miss out on getting to know the other children in the class and possibly make settling in harder.

I did wonder if would lose my place.

but eldests headmaster said was an option.

he would go to preschool attached to the school still.
well same grounds but seperate.

just when eldest went she got very tired and tearful.
hes due to start 2015 but not 5 until april 2016 so was thinking starting after easter.

dd2 spetember birthday so she will be 5when shes atarts in 2014 as shes just missed a 2013 start.

I see kids start schooll all throughout year due to moving and they seem to settle and intergrate well.

Im bristol but not bristol la so not as bad s scrum for places or course depends if schoosl oversubscribed.

As PP said, a school won't hold the place so you could end up with whatever school has a place in Year 1 and this could be all over your area.

My friend's DD has her birthday beginning of October so missed out very narrowly the start of Reception last year. The child was totally bored at pre-school, she did 1 3/4 years and knew everything they did, no challenge whatsoever. And this was an expensive private nursery.

So, it depends a lot on the child, being the oldest in a nursery/pre-school setting could back-fire if the teachers don't take it into account.

The working parent argument: sorry, but I know a year in advance when and where my child starts. I can organise leave from work.

I booked the first two weeks in September and arranged for more leave if necessary in advance when the final time table came out. Also, DH was on stand-by to help out and our childminder obviously had her share as she did every of my working day soon after DD started.

Schools have to legally hold your place as long as you start at some point in Reception year and also the term after your DC are 5. So assuming an summer birthday they could start June half term.

If you want to defer a whole year you ahve to reapply for a Year 1 place.

Thanks rasberry thats what I thourght and what ledest head teacher said other day.

I was thinking holding him off until easter-summer term.
he be 5 in april.

I think bored depends on the preschool or other childcare provider you use then could have couple days a week to do classes with him or take him on days out ect.

apart from phonics rception and preschool/nursery should be covering same curriculum early years foundation and learning through play.

nora mum-I take on board what you say but reading on here that some areas have staggered starts until xmas! Combine with holidays its toughie for some especially if they have no family locally to support.

My eldest feb born got very whiney and tired during reception.
Her freind july sobbed a lot.

Seen kids move into school later and still adjust make freinds.

some raes have more than 1 intake but we dont just september.

Locally you lose funding (I was told). Cannot claim nursery funding for any child who is already 4 on 1 September.

I honestly don't know whether you can still claim early years funding. You can until the term after they are 5 if you don't have a school place but I don't know how it works it you have deferred.

LAs and schools do not always have the right answers.

odd as if look at private schools reception year they say you can use funding to part pay fees. will double check with my la.
maybe its changed.

found this link on direct gov think may have been told wrong

www.direct.gov.uk/en/Parents/Preschooldevelopmentandlearning/NurseriesPlaygroupsReceptionClasses/DG_10016103

It was possible in 2011 - 2012 as I

1. deferred and
2. got the nursery grant between september and january (started school in jan).

I would defer. Let me explain!

We live in Glasgow. In Scotland, the school intake is a calendar year, not a school year. Therefore the earliest you can possibly start is 4y8m. If you have a birthday from Dec to Feb you can defer for the next year without having to go into the year above . Therefore my dd1 and ds started in August aged 5y6m and my dd2 started aged 4y9m. No one here starts before 4y6m.

As a secondary teacher I know I can spot the children(especially boys) who started early.

I would defer as long as you can. I'm not comfortable with children starting so early. They shouldn't have to if they're not ready!

DD got her nursery grant until end of term she turned 5 (used to pay fees in private reception)

The LA tried to say she wasn't eligible - 1 letter and they did a u turn. It applies to so few children as most take up a state reception place that you may not always get the correct info.

Maybe worth checking out how school deal with yr 1 - some are very formal from the start and some more a gentle transition from EYFS.

mam29: I also don't have family around, so the childminder is absolute necessary. Her costs were similar to the nursery in the first weeks.

I found that school was very good in teaching independence compared to nursery. DD was very shy when at nursery, I think they actually mollycoddled her too much with the higher ratio. She benefited from having to do more on her own. Yes, the EYFS is the same but how it is done depends a lot on the individual sessions.

If you defer entry for less than a full academic year you will not lose your place so you can safely defer entry until, say, Easter. However, if you defer entry for a full year they will not hold your place for you and you may struggle to get into a popular school. Those rules apply across all of England.

Just so you are aware, the curriculum in Reception is identical to that in nursery. It is designed to be a gentle introduction, preparing children for the more formal schooling that starts in Y1. And delaying entry will not, of course, make any difference to the range of ages in Reception. Even if everyone defers, by the end of the summer term the oldest child will be near enough a full year older than the youngest.