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Advice needed on dd's lack of friends

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bunjies · 13/09/2012 13:56

Not sure if I should be posting here or on behaviour/development board but here goes - sorry it's quite long.

Please could you give me some advice as we're struggling with a situation with dd1.

Bit of back story first. We moved abroad when dd1 was nearly 4 and moved back when she was 8.5 so her first experience of primary school in England was at the end of y3 but this was only for a month before it was the summer hols. She has now started in y5. She has found it very hard to make friends in this school and has been quite unhappy to the point where we tried to move her to a different, closer, school. Unfortunately for us our closest school is grade 1 and there were no places. We appealed but were rejected (2:1 against).

We believe the reason it has been difficult for her to make friends is because her current school is very small and by a quirk of fate there are only 7 girls in her class of 22. (We actually think the school is very good as a consequence of the smaller class sizes). All the other girls have been at the school since Reception and all play together which is the problem. This doesn?t suit dd1 as she prefers the company of just 1 friend. We do see this as a problem as she has a tendency to want/need the whole BFF thing which we are certain is bound to lead to crushing disappointment when others don't. Since she has been at the school she has been ?best friends? with about 3 different girls, one left the school but they had fallen out beforehand as she didn?t want to hang out with dd1 anymore, the 2nd one is no longer a friend as she?s ?too bossy? according to dd and now she?s on to the 3rd who I think doesn?t see her as a best friend rather someone who she hangs out with but dd1 always turns it into something more.

Dh & I are both concerned as we think she has unrealistic expectations of what a friend should be. When we lived abroad she did have a very good friend who she still considers her absolute best friend. Whether or not the friend thinks the same I don?t know but when we went back over for a holiday this summer they did spend a lot of time together including a sleepover.

We did speak to her teacher about it last year as we weren't sure if she was being deliberately ignored/excluded by the others but this doesn't seem to be the case.

Dd2 is also at the school (currently in y3) but has fitted in much better, especially as she?s not so fussed about the BFF thing and also conversely there are more girls in her class than boys.

So, dd1 is 10 at the end of this month and we asked her if she would like to have a few friends round for a tea party thing. She told us she only wants BFF3 which made us go Hmm as warning bells went off. If we agreed would we be promoting this ideal she has in her head about this particular best friends? This week she has also had a row with previous BFF2, telling her she hates her and doesn?t want her to come for her birthday. Double Hmm. BTW this friend has invited her, along with the rest of the class, to her birthday party in a couple of months time. I have spoken to dd1 about what she said to former BFF2 telling her that it wasn?t a very nice thing to do (she explained why she?d said it but in my opinion it was an over reaction on her part) and that this class just wasn?t going to be the place for her to have a special friend all of her own.

So, what do we do? Do we have the one friend round for a birthday tea or try to convince dd1 to forget it and just have a lovely family celebration? Dh thinks we should discourage her from having the friend round as he thinks she doesn?t really care about this girl just wants to go along with the whole birthday thing. As in would you turn down the chance to have a birthday party?

This probably doesn?t make much sense as I?m just trying to get information down without much emotion. (It?s killing me to see dd1 so unhappy as I also had trouble making friends when I was her age & it?s bringing up all sorts of feelings).

So WWYD ? about the ?party? and about dd & the school thing generally?

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jellyrolly · 13/09/2012 14:32

I would go somewhere as a family for her birthday, take away the whole 'who is coming to my party' situation and make a nice day out of it. Are you near somewhere special she would like to visit? Or just a cinema trip and meal out, special time/beauty treatment with mum? I think as long as you make a fuss of her, what you do doesn't really matter. Don't feel you have to have a birthday tea just because everyone else does.

What is she interested in? How about some after school clubs, maybe something outdoors blow the cobwebs away and feel less 'intense' after school?

I know it must be awful to see her unhappy but as long as she knows you are there for her and love her you are doing your best for her. Are you friends with any mums who you could talk to about it?

I think coming on here and chatting will help you feel better too x

Yourefired · 13/09/2012 14:43

Would really recommend "the unwritten rules of friendship". The book has a good section on what do friends do, and explains that there are different levels of friendship and what these look like and act like. There are games you can play with your DD to explain and reinforce these concepts.

ScariestFairyByFar · 13/09/2012 14:49

You'refired that book sounds great! Ime or working with lots of girls and being one groups of girls with odd numbers tend to be problematic as one gets left out as girls seem to naturally pair off even in a big group so with a bit of time she may find her BFF and find her way in

bunjies · 13/09/2012 15:03

Thanks for the replies and that book does sound useful.

I was going to take her to the v&a museum as there's a ballgown exhibition on atm as she loves designing flouncy dresses! She wants to be a fashion designer when she grows up so for her birthday she's requested fabric, thread etc. Will also be signing her up to a sewing class as she wants to learn but not sure if there'll be other girls there. She's not an active girl so doesn't like gym. Prefers reading, listening to music and fiddling with bits of material.

Am going to try & get her into guides when she's 10 so that may help.

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MrsRobertDuvallHasRosacea · 13/09/2012 18:04

Bunjies...enjoy the exhibition. My niece put it together (proud)

bunjies · 13/09/2012 19:26

Oh wow mrsrobertduvall. What a fantastic achievement. To be honest I'm just as excited about going as dd!

Convinced dd tonight that it would be better having friend round after school one day rather than for birthday reasons. She was a bit vexed at first but I think she's slightly relieved the pressure is off. Now how do we get her to stop being so intense with people?

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jellyrolly · 13/09/2012 21:26

That's a great idea, would love to see that exhibition (well done MrsRobert's niece!).

I have a book for my eldest to write down and draw his negative feelings. He always yells it doesn't work but actually when he uses it, he is much happier and lighter afterwards. She sounds like a bright, creative girl, does she write at all?

Maybe focus on coping strategies and ways to make her feel good rather than what might be wrong in friendships?

bunjies · 14/09/2012 14:20

She is creative - forgot to say she loves art as well and yes, does like writing stories. I think your son's book sounds like a great idea. I might just try something like that.

I know you're right and I need to stop focussing on the negatives. It's just it brings back so many painful memories for me & I can't bear the thought of her feeling like I did at that age.

Off to Amazon to check out the book.

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jellyrolly · 16/09/2012 14:45

If you do try the same sort of book, my DS was so negative about it but it really did help him so don't be put off! I think it can help to let them know their negative feelings are normal and acceptable too.

So sorry this is hard for you too, you should realise that you have given her a gift of being sensitive and she will experience so many wonderful things because of it. Life is harder as well though.

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