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Need some advice about nurturing bright DS

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Loueytb3 · 16/08/2012 16:15

Please don't flame me as you will all probably think this is a stealth boast but I am trying to get some impartial advice?

DS2 is 5.4 and just about to go into Yr1. He is quite bright. I am not sure exactly how bright because I have nothing to compare him to (DS1 has ASD). I get the impression that he is a lot brighter than his peers but its difficult to find out without sounding like you are boasting and the other parents getting the wrong end of the stick.

He was a very early reader (short books at age 3), is good with numbers which is not in itself particularly remarkable, but what really stands out is that he has a photographic memory.

To give you an example, he is very into geography at the moment. I bought an app for the iphone/ipad (as recommended by someone on here) called stack the countries. Its basically a quiz about geography. It has questions about where countries are, their flags, capitals, various landmarks etc. As a result of playing this game, he can now place every country in the world on a map (correctly first time), name virtually all their capitals and recognise a country by its shape. He can place all US states and name their state capitals. We've been watching the Olympics and one morning the presenters were not sure what country one of the flags was from. He correctly told me it was Vietnam. He is obsessed with plate tectonics and how the continents came to form (and when). He knows all the planets and how many moons there are on each of them. He told me one morning that he'd had a dream about Shakespeare. As far as I knew they hadn't done anything about him at school so I asked him to tell me about him and he started talking about the Globe Theatre. I later found out that he'd read a book at school (self chosen) which talked about him and the Globe theatre. He'd clearly remembered it from then and had a dream about it.

I should say that none of this has been directed by us. He learnt to read by himself (totally surprised us when he started recognising words). We have basically nurtured his interests by providing reading material/games/tv programmes as they have developed.

He's about to go into yr1 at a state primary school. So far, they have been fantastic. However, I don't know whether in the longer term it is the best place for him especially as it?s a full class of 30 kids. Both me and DH work so there isn't a lot of time to teach him things and TBH I want him to have fun out of school. What (if anything) can I do to help him out? We could pay for private education, but we had thought about potentially doing it at secondary level. Now I'm wondering if its leaving it too late and we are missing out years when he's eager to learn and is soaking it all up like a sponge. He would have to move schools after yr2 as there is a separate infant/junior school. Or would he get enough stimulation from a good state primary and should we save our money?

I would really appreciate views from people who have DCs similar to my DS2 and/or teachers.

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PurpleAndPoppyWearer · 25/08/2012 21:54

I survived the State system as a bright child. With help from parents and teachers. I read everything in sight. I don't remember ever being bored.

FWIW, my DH is also quite clever (not as bright as me, obv) but went to private school and was not encouraged.

I have a good Oxbridge degree, he has a so-so red-brick degree.

BUT DH has better social/networking skills than I do....now earns way more/better career prospects than I would ever have imagined for myself.

How do you measure success and happiness? Which do you value more for your children?

The thing is, each child is individual. So much depends on local education provision. And your priorities.

Good luck.

Tgger · 25/08/2012 21:54

or maybe it would.... "tone deaf" can be a matter of experience Smile.

PurpleAndPoppyWearer · 25/08/2012 21:55

Music was also a no-no for me, BTW. I love art, however.

RaisinDEtre · 25/08/2012 21:55

as a musician I say don't dismiss music

learning to read music (after all, another language, innit), the maths involved, fine motor skills, teamworking in ensembles, what's not to like?

and erm, piano was cited as an eg; or why not recorder, ocarina, brass even; we used to be told wait til adult teef come in before attempting brass but modern approach is just go for it

Tgger · 25/08/2012 21:56

and I got my worst mark in an art exam at private school (can still remember it so clearly 50% which was my lowest mark ever!). Am pleased my DS loves drawing and can sing, however I would say please be careful about labelling 5 year olds (re good at art/music etc!).

Tgger · 25/08/2012 21:59

No, of course don't dismiss it, but see what suits your DC- my DS is still very much into free play, making up his own shows etc etc rather than practising the piano age 5. Sometimes these shows involve singing Grin. However, although he can read, his brain seems far too fluid to sit down and learn the piano as you do when nearer 7, so I would prefer he didn't until he is this age....

AmINearlyThereYet · 25/08/2012 22:13

He sounds lovely. As long as he is happy, I'd let him be. There is so much out there to discover... languages to learn... computer programming... Latin & Greek... And there are sports and music and social skills... plenty to keep a child occupied. It is only if he starts getting bored and disengaged/ trouble-making in class that you need to worry, IMO.
Looking ahead, you mentioned you were considering private at secondary level. I saw the other day that Eton has a scholarship which includes the fees for a year or two at a suitable prep school, if it is needed. I've no idea whether that is somehing which you would even want to consider, but I'd thought I'd mention it in case you found it relevant.

Loueytb3 · 29/08/2012 08:12

Been away this weekend and I'm just catching up. I would definitely like him to try a musical instrument but probably not for a year at least. We are due to inherit a piano from my v elderly grandmother so I think we will look into it at that point. I think it's good to at least try something as you've pointed out its helpful in other areas. I found it very relaxing.

I'm going to have a look at the two nearest boys schools to gauge at what point (if any) we would be thinking about moving him. We could move him at 11 as they finish at 13 but it would depend on whether they had places and I get the impression they are oversubscribed.

He chose a Horrible Geography from the library last week and all weekend has been regaling us with facts from it. I was slightly nonplussed when he told us that we were walking through a temperature forest until I realised thats where he got it from. And apparently there was a mini tsunami on the beach Grin I think those range of books will be a big hit.

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drjohnsonscat · 29/08/2012 11:09

He does sound clever! And how lovely that he can absorb all that stuff and enjoy it.

Does he enjoy music (I mean do you sing songs together and listen to lots of music at home?). That might tell you whether he would get something out of piano. Otherwise I would just carry on as you are. And agree that he doesn't need private education at this point. If he's clever he will absorb stuff anyway especially if you can support and nurture him which it sounds like you can. Plus state schools are actually good (usually!)

One caveat though - not to the OP but to other posters. Please don't think of maps as a boy thing. Drives me mad. My not especially clever (well, not clever like the OP's boy) DD (5) adores maps and we watched the whole of the Olympic opening ceremony with her map on her lap while she spotted the countries as the athletes came in. "Maps are for boys" is what got the Early Learning Centre to create a pink globe, for silly girls who can't deal with a normal globe Angry

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