Year 6 SATs

[Charlie2000]

We only got the SATs results yesterday so we have very little time to discuss them with our dd's teacher. Can parents ask to see the raw scores for the test papers?

Do you have particular concerns that come as a surprise with the results you've been given when considered alongside feedback you've had over the past year on parents' evenings, etc?

I'd also like to see raw scores from the tests. My dds result is a level different to where her teachers have told me she's at. I think it's more so they don't have to help her, but still I think we should see them anyway.

A level difference could be down to 1 mark as you arent given sub levels. I realise this probably makes you want to see the raw numbers even more to see if this is the case but my point is it isnt worth worrying about.

When your primary school transitioned with the secondary they will have passed on teacher assessment as well as SATs scores (if they had them), it wont honestly make much difference.

If we felt the raw scores were worth seeing, we would give them to you.

You can request to see the actual papers... but what would be the benefit? The score is only what a child did on the day on that paper. TBH the teacher's assessment is more useful and that will all have been passed on to her high school.

It's definitely more than a 1 point mark difference. They'd based her teachers assessment on her getting a reader for the SATS, however i found out last minute and stopped that. Her teachers assessment has miraculously changed to her actial SATS level.

It would be good to see where she needs improvement based on an outsiders point of view - not one that makes the school look good.

I'd just be interested to see how she did on the level 6 reading as she didn't pass it.She has worked very hard to reach 5a's and is disappointed that lots of her peers have been given level 5 just like her with no differentiation between 5c's and 5a's. If the SATs scores are passed on to secondary that's fine. I have told her she has done very well anyway!

It sounds like alot of hard work was put in and 5's are great. Well done to your DD. It would be good for the DC to see where the gaps could be filled though, especially when they've worked towards level 6's

SATs scores dont show gaps in ability. They simply couldnt/didnt answer that question on the day/got a stricter marker/missed a couple of commas and so on.

Charlie it does sound a little bit like you want to be able to say that your daughter's 5 is better than other 5s because she did the level 6 paper. Im sure this isnt what you mean but I think you are concerned needlessly.

Wellthen - I am not concerned at all, just interested. She was awarded the English trophy at school so I don't need to brag about her ability to others. She finished yr 5 on 5b's - I'd just like to see if she has made progress this year. At her last parent's evening she was borderline 5a so I'm just interested to see if she reached that level by the end of the year (for my information, not for others).
As for the level 6, she wants to know her score just for interest - I don't think thats unreasonable - in GCSEs and A levels you are given a score so why not now?

Just ask to see the papers, the experience will open your eyes to how strictly they are marked, how limited they are in quality of assessment, & you may notice consistent patterns in mistakes or types of omissions that she may not realise she's inclined to do. I had a good look at y5 maths paper for DS & found it quite informative.

AFAIK, the secondary will be given sublevels, even if they are not on the sheet you get... I know many people who didn't know any more than the number until the first year 7 parents' evening.

Threshold levels were provided with DS1's report along with his raw scores. The threshold levels were for Reading (out of 50) Level 3 11-17, Level 4 18-32 and Level 5 33-50. For Maths (out of 100) Level 3 18-45, Level 4 46-78 and Level 5 79-100. As our school provided the raw scores with the report, I assume that the information is readily available from teachers if you ask for it. There's no sub levelling (a,b,c) as in previous years but I guess you can work out from the raw score roughly whether the level would be an a, b or c.

Do the SAT marks get passed automatically to the secondary? Even if going from state to independent or changing borough or whatever? Thx