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KS2 SATS results finally given out!

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LittenTree · 13/07/2012 15:51

Was pleased to see that DS2 finally seems to see a correlation between cause and effect in that he handed me his report when I came in and made theatrical, exaggerated 'fear' responses Grin. Normally I retrieve it, crumpled, from the bottom of his bag 2 or 3 days later as he saw this 'letter home' as being of no consequence.... Also, the 'cause and effect' of working hard on doing as well as he could in his SATS preparation and the actual tests.

Anyway, nice though not totally unexpected surprise. His maths and Science are pretty solid but a year's tutoring and focusing have got him the 4 we were so hoping for, for him, in Literacy. His writing skills are not very good but I've seen a real improvement in him over Y6 so well done him and well done to his teachers.

And breathe.

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Tiggles · 13/07/2012 16:34

:)

wheresthebeach · 13/07/2012 16:44

That's great - I hope he's proud that the work in literacy has paid off!

happy2bhomely · 13/07/2012 17:47

Well done to him!

At the end of yr 2 Ds got 1b in teacher assessments and spent yr3 and 4 receiving extra support in class. He has worked so hard and we were really hoping he would achieve level 4.

We got the sats results last night at parents evening and he got...

Teacher assessment/sats result
Science 4a/
writing 4a/5c
Reading 5c/5b
Maths 5c/5a

The school is under new management and has seen the % of pupils receiving level 5 increase from 17% to 43% this year!

DontEatTheVolesKids · 13/07/2012 17:50

Alright, fess up, whose DC got 5s or 6s. And more importantly, what did they get back in y2?

DontEatTheVolesKids · 13/07/2012 17:51

I apologise, actually. I am nosy about everyone's progressions, not just those who got 5s & 6s.

teacherwith2kids · 13/07/2012 18:14

Don't Eat:

DS got 5s for Literacy - got 3 for reading and 2a for writing back in Year 2.
6 for Maths - 3 in Year 2.
5 for science - 3 in Year 2.

Insanity · 13/07/2012 18:30

Ds brought home his sats results which he got told and wrote down, and also his school report. But I'm confused, his sats levels are lower on his school report to some of the results he got told he got in the tests? Perhaps he performed better in his test and the school report was written before the results, I aim to find out. Anyone else got this?

simbo · 13/07/2012 18:45

We got all 5s but I honestly can't remember ks1 results. 3 in maths I know, can't remember the rest.

LittenTree · 13/07/2012 18:57

DS2's teacher assessment results were:
Speaking and Listening:5
Reading:5
Writing:4

His actual Reading Test result was 5
His actual SATS papers result was 4.

It's pretty obvious that his writing is the ishoo, but that's all OK. He's made great strides and we're very proud of his effort!

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ChickensHaveNoLips · 13/07/2012 19:08

DS1 got 5a's in Maths and Science, and a 6 in English. He got 3's in Year 2.

Blu · 13/07/2012 19:10

happy2be - that's fantastic! great progression.

Toomanychoices · 13/07/2012 19:33

DD got 5s in English and science and level
6 in maths. She got level 3 in everything in year 2

IndigoBell · 13/07/2012 19:48

Teacher - very well done on the 6 in maths.

DS just missed out on a 6. He would have got a 6 if the threshold had been the same as the mock one...... (Not sure how far off the threshold he was)

And he was gutted. I'm really sad, that his brilliant straight 5s have turned into 'only a 5'.

In KS1 he got 2s. But since then we've moved to a much better school.

KitKatGirl1 · 13/07/2012 20:30

We've not had report yet or 'official' Sats results, though teacher takes all the dc out to tell them theirs individuallyand verbally. Ds got all level 5s (level 3 reader at KS2; level 2b everything else - @voles!).

It feels like a bit of an anticlimax. Interested to know his actual scores on the tests, though of course the teacher assessments are much more important. Was just thinking about how there are possibly only a small percentage of children who are borderline and so most just scored as anticipated with no great shocks?

We already know his teacher assessments as secondary told us them and what sets he's in so his actual report should have nothing of any particular surprise in it!...Just feels like a bit of an anticlimax to year6!

Naze · 13/07/2012 20:33

My son got back home today with level six in Maths and 5 in all others. I thought he could do better.

KitKatGirl1 · 13/07/2012 20:36

Lol, Naze (assume that was a joke?)

Indigo's right - the level 6 thing making them think they're not good enough...and they didn't put anyone in for them at ds school despite 40% of the year at 5a in maths.

Naze · 13/07/2012 20:50

My son could have achieved a Level 6 in English and Science, I thought it would have been smashing.

KitKatGirl1 · 13/07/2012 21:02

???

LittenTree · 14/07/2012 10:19

My DS2 (I his gave his results earlier, effectively an overall 4 in Literacy; 5 in Maths and 5 in Science) got '2's in all his KS1 SATS so actually he's made good progress. At the start of Y5, an in-school Literacy 'test' which may have been a QCA got him a 3 Confused which triggered 10 1:1 lessons over 10 weeks. I didn't feel they'd been that well targetted, so we augmented his learning with a year of Kip in English. (And night after night of Toe By Toe, reading to each other, 'mock' SATS comprehension papers etc). The fact he's now got a 4 (with a couple of '5's in reading, and 'Speaking and Listening') is hugely encouraging.

A child who is devastated at not getting straight 6s is, in my opinion, heading for 'perfection breakdown'. Sorry, but greeting that news with anything other than a sanguine nod, to me, indicates a DC who might have to be 'watched' for 'all or nothing' tendencies that do not happy, well adjusted adults make ('Yes, yes, I know I'm bloody brilliant, but I'm not brilliant enough'), i.e. the 'level 6 thing making them feel they're not good enough' ... But tell that to a DC whose worked really hard and has managed to scrape say a 3 in these SATS. That 'pressure' lives with them all the time.

SATS '6' are, imho, a bit of a vanity trip (and I say that as the mother of DS1 who could very likely have achieved 6's). We have all agreed, endlessly, that the SATS results really, apparently, don't matter a jot to the secondaries; that SATS measure the school, not the DC, blah blah blah..

Haven't we?

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IndigoBell · 14/07/2012 10:49

Litten - is your comment aimed at my DS who was upset he didn't get a L6 in maths?

I'm well aware he has excessive anxiety, thanks.

He feels excessive pressure to do well all the time - just as much as if he was struggling very badly.

Nothing much I can do about it, until his aspergers is fully cured......

DontEatTheVolesKids · 14/07/2012 10:54

I expect no one else remembers this , but 4 yrs ago there were loadsa threads & posts about kids getting all 3s in their KS1 SATs, there was even a "All you whose DC got Level 3s in KS1 SATs, what next?" thread in Chat.

and I have always wondered what really would happen to that cohort.

I love all the stories of uneven development here. Proves that they aren't robots.

simbo · 14/07/2012 11:19

I wish my ds had not been made to sit L6 papers. He was never likely to get the English, and missed maths because of elevate threshold. It was just more work to try and impress ofsted.

teacherwith2kids · 14/07/2012 11:39

On the other hand, I am rally glad that DS's school chose to teach the children towards L6, and would have been even if DS had got neither (he sat L6 English but did not get it). The temptation for schools when L5 was the ceiling on the papers (though obviously not in the TA levels) was to 'cap' their teaching at the same level.

With a L6 paper to aim for, DS has spent the year learning algebra, advanced problem solving, geometry etc etc in Maths (including with a secondary specialist teacher), and being really challenged by texts and in his writing in English - all new areas - rather than just being with the 'safe L5, no worries there, let's work harder on the threshold children instead' group.

I am not saying that DS's school consciously makes those choices - in general, they are very much not a SATs factory and do very little teaching to the test - but I am sure that the existence of the L6 paper has had some influence, even if unconsciously, on the topics and challenges set for thoise very able children this year.

Funnily enough, the Maths SATs are the only ones which will have an influence on the secondary next year. They make it very public, and very clear, that initial setting (which they only do for Maths, all other subjects are taught in mixed ability form groups) for Maths is based on raw SATs scores. Presumably there is some movement between sets during the year if a child is found to be very definitely in the wrong one, but the school made it very clear that it is SATs, not in-secondary testing, that will drive initial setting.

LittenTree · 14/07/2012 18:02

Indigo, you'll see you're not the only one bemoaning a level 6 'failure' here, but- I must say that also having rather a close relationship with AS and anxiety, that actually further reinforces my inability to understand why a child with that combination is, it would seem, pushed to the point where they fail? If they'd got a 6, would such parents be looking towards a test where 7 is the next hurdle?

Teacher, I understand your point (re 'teaching towards level 6) , but, once again, we're up against that English thing where nothing can be said to have been learned, imbibed, discovered, unless it is tested and marked to the max.

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