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What kind of level would a child need to be at the end of year 3 to potentially be a level 6 in year 6?

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Iamnotminterested · 22/06/2012 11:32

I'm just curious, we have a long way to go yet!? This is assuming of course that the level 6 test will not be scrapped before then!

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AdventuresWithVoles · 22/06/2012 20:45

That's fuzzy, how are they going to use those 3 categories to measure whether progress in KS3 is reasonable?

Feenie · 22/06/2012 21:29

Lord knows. I imagine he will decide that when he wakes up one morning and plucks it out of thin air. Like the rest of his ideas. Eejit.

rabbitstew · 22/06/2012 22:06

Ah, he will re-introduce the 11 plus, of course, for which only those "exceeding" age expectations will be entered. They will then go on to a guaranteed fast stream at secondary school to study for O-levels. The "secures" will be given a chance to catch up and also take O-levels and the "emerging" will never emerge.

rabbitstew · 22/06/2012 22:08

Or, maybe, the "emerging" will spend another year at primary school until they are either deemed "secure" or "non-emergent"?!

rabbitstew · 22/06/2012 22:10

Hey, why don't we just look at how it's done in Singapore and then guess at what he'll want to do?...

crazygracieuk · 23/06/2012 07:30

My oldest was 2a at end of y2 but managed a level 6 in y6.

My second left y2 on 3c, y4 on 4a and the school is hoping that she is a level 6 in y6 too.

RaisinBoys · 23/06/2012 11:22

"Blimey I'm shocked they're either written off or have so much presumption at such an early age.There would be 3 years to go and don't they all mature at diff rates?"

Absolutely agree Rockpool

It's bad enough that some people still insist on writing children off at 11, now you'e talking about predicting Y6 achievement at Y3!!!

The world has gone mad...and we're all going to hell in a handcart.

The best person I know was written off at school...told at 11 that he would amount to nothing and "the world of academia was not for him".
His parents listened to this and then did the following - they loved him, nurtured him and educated him (by taking him out and giving him experiences - not by endless Kumon style maths or other mind-numbing number crunching & worksheets). He was supported by one fantastically inspiring teacher (who failed to view him as just a set of results). He excelled and is a wonderful human being.

My DS is a person not a NC level!

meredeux · 23/06/2012 12:10

Its not about "being written off", its just a matter of probability which life is full off. e.g. if an unborn's parents eyes are brown, then there is a good chance that the baby won't have blue eyes, but it is not certain that they won't.

CouthyMow · 23/06/2012 12:59

What gets me is DC like my DS2. At the end of Y2, he was roughly 1C in all areas. At the end of Y3, he tested as a 3b, but literally one mark off 3a. If he had been written off at the end of Y2 (or even worse, at the end of Y1 when he would have failed the phonics test had he taken it), it would have totally ignored the progress he has made this year.

mrz · 23/06/2012 13:20

You seem to have a very odd idea about the purpose of the phonics screening check Hmm If it had been around he would have received additional support and hopefully have achieved higher levels in Y2.

Feenie · 23/06/2012 13:36

Why in earth would he have been written off at all? Confused

pointythings · 23/06/2012 21:10

gracie your DCs are solid evidence of why one size fits all education which streams children rigidly from an early age does not work.

Shame Michael Gove doesn't 'do' evidence...

pointythings · 23/06/2012 22:03

mrz I lost the will to live about halfway through that letter. Is that normal?

Feenie · 23/06/2012 22:04
Grin
rainbowinthesky · 23/06/2012 22:09

Blimey. No levels?? Are they saying that progress will be judged according to knowledge which will be laid out for us rather than using a numerical system. How will people compare I wonder?

timetosmile · 23/06/2012 22:09

Why are you interested, OP?

Not about to flame you..just wondering?!

As many have said, there's a lot that can go well/wrong in the next three years.

I have no idea what levels my current yr6 DS will achieve...but he's curious about the world, interested in everything, doing fine at school, has the most off beat creative streak I've ever known and is always the first to welcome/befriend the new child at school/Scouts wherever.

So I would encourage you to keep your focus really broad and not just aim for a 'level'

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