Year 6 sats topics

[wilson1982]

Hi all. My ds is sitting sats in year 6 next week. He is doing the writing one. Has anybody else's ds done it yet? What was it about. I've heard something about diary and Atlantis. Thanks for responses in advance.

Year 6 SATs were a couple of weeks ago, surely?

We had a thread at the time; I think topics were mentioned: here

Ah thank you please ignore this thread. They are doing the externally marked papers which are allowed to be done up to end of june

The externally marked papers had to be done in May.

So, you want people to tell you what your DS will have to write about...? Isn't that cheating?

My thoughts too, SoupDragon....

If you are in a state school in this country, the SATS have been done and submitted for external marking already.
So what exactly is your situation and why do you want your son to cheat?

Even the L6 papers had to be completed in the week following the standard SATs iirc.

I think you must have got your wires crossed, op.

Of course I would not tell him the topics. That would be immoral and would not teach him any lessons for life. I am actually insulted that you would write such a thing. I am just interested what he will be writing about. I suppose it doesn't really matter I was just interested. By the way soup dragon, you want to get your facts straight. A-sats don't mean anything for the kids it's the school. B-internally marked papers don't go towards the sats English grade but can if the teacher chooses to use them to help inform their levelling.

Like I said. Please ignore this thread as its ALL already on the link above thanks.

Get what facts right?

Anyway, I'm well aware what SATS are for, what with having had 2 children go through them already, but thanks.

wilson, you are making no sense whatsoever.
And I write that as a Y6 teacher who is very familiar with the role of Y6 SATS.

'Of course I would not tell him the topics. That would be immoral and would not teach him any lessons for life.'

That has never been an issue for some parents.

Why is he doing the Y6 SATS now?

We are going to administer the Y6 internally marked papers after half term could it be that is what he will be doing rather than externally marked?

Sorry Wilson but
A - wrong
B- wrong

Wilson, you've definitely got this mixed up - your school must be doing the internally marked papers, that's the only way your ds can not have done them yet. And yes, they do form part of the final teacher assessment for writing, although teachers are expected to make a judgement across several pieces.

Thanks feenie I thnk yor write. Is doing internal. Sorry I got confused. Mrz. I totally disagree with you and sats at 11. Will they put it on their cv that they got a level 4 in Maths, English and science in their ks2 sats lol. It most certainly is for school league tables and my ds has been taugh to the test since dec instead of given a broad curriculum. If this was not for the school why would they do this. Like I said though as ths thread is re covering everything in the link above!

Would you like to tell me which facts I need to get right?

Wilson - his SATs won't be on his CV but his secondary school has to use them to predict his GCSEs.

And if it looks like he won't get his predicted GCSEs he'll probably be given extra support at school.

So if he gets a L4 now and in Y10 is on track for a C - school will be happy.

If he gets a L5 now and in Y10 is on track for a C - school won't be happy and will probably do everything they can to boost his grade to a B.

So your Y6 SATs do influence your GCSE grades.

So you see Wilson his levels in KS2 will be used by his new school (and the government) to predict his future success and set targets. His new school might even use them to set pupils for maths and English until they do internal tests. So on the strength of his results he could be in the top or bottom class.
and B
"Teachers? judgements will be informed by and take account of (but not be limited by) the child?s result on a standard test." the teacher doesn't have a choice ...and if there is a large discrepancy between the teacher assessment and the test it would be questioned.

Thanks mrz yeah i suppose your right didnt think of the broader picture. Just would have thought more people would have not agreed with standard testing at year 2 and 6. if a child does not succeed at these ages he or she could still do well in the future as i did but not when they are necessarily that age. this could put them off literacy and maths for life. Yes i understand that schools need to be moderated on teachers assessment but sats are too much pressure at too young an age but again its just my opinion and im sure i will be corrected lol.

soup dragon you shouldn´t presume! I think that was slightly unfair but can also see why you would have thought that :0

Actually Wilson the EYFS profile results are used to predict future outcomes (apparently there is a stronger correlation between the profile and GCSEs than with SATs)

mrz i totally agree with that very good point.

They are given standardised tests several times a year from y2 onwards; it's just that the y2 + y6 results are reported to parents formally, and the y6 average results for the year group are published by govt. It's not just once in each of y2 + y6 when they get standardised testing.