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Year 2 SATS

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Onebananatwo · 30/05/2012 21:30

If you child's school are doing year 2 SATS, is your child aware before the test that they are taking a test?

My ds took his Maths SATS test yesterday, and got given the results today. He is cross that he didn't know it was a test before the results were given, and he has realised the literacy work he did this morning was also a test but only after once maths results were given out.

Yes he should always give 100% to his work, but as he said if I knew it was a test and marked I would make sure it was my best that I could possibly do.

Would you mention to the teacher about this? Or notch down on the wall of experience?

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TeamEdward · 30/05/2012 21:34

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Feenie · 30/05/2012 21:37

I would say it should be very similar to the activities in a Maths lesson - I would solve questions together with the class as a matter of course.

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Onebananatwo · 30/05/2012 21:41

I wouldn't be surprised if his class have been given past papers on a daily weekly basis. And I suspect this is why he's got blase about filling them in.

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Feenie · 30/05/2012 21:42

Not good practice, I'm afraid. But I bet you don't need me to tell you that!

SunflowersSmile · 30/05/2012 22:12

Our primary does not tell parents when SATs are happening in year 2. My ds knows they are different to normal work as have to be silent and format is mostly booklet form. However he has not been doing lots of past papers at school and whole thing approached with a light touch.

flexybex · 30/05/2012 22:47

I wonder why the results were given out? Why would a teacher do that?

WoodRose · 30/05/2012 22:53

My DD had no idea they were tests. She did tell me about the special "booklets", though. Apparently, they were fun apart from the maths booklet which was "boring, so I didn't really do very much" .

Jinsei · 30/05/2012 22:54

Our school tells the children that they are doing "challenges".

I don't think kids (or parents!) should be told about the tests in advance, but I think the children should certainly be encouraged to produce their best work.

ohnevermind · 31/05/2012 05:19

The assessments in Year 2 are based on teacher assessment. The children do take a test but the results are just a small part of the evidence a teacher will be looking at when assessing your child.

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Onebananatwo · 31/05/2012 05:59

Interesting about it being only a small part of the assessment.

My ds knows nothing about levels etc, or should I say he knew nothing about levels.

He was given a mark out of 30 and was told Level 2A.

Now he and I interpret that to mean that the % mark for test converts to a 2A, and that's his level.

Are you saying that this could potentially go up or down?

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SunflowersSmile · 31/05/2012 06:45

I think because 'teacher assessed' his level won't just rely on this test. If he has had a bad day it will be taken into account and vice versa.
He certainly shouldn't be worrying about it.

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Onebananatwo · 31/05/2012 06:54

He's frustrated with himself that he didn't put his all into it.

I tried to reassure him, that they weren't testing him, just that they wanted to see what he understood, and what he is still learning as he has many years of school left to learn lots.

'But I knew more, I just didn't realise it was important'.

Now in that fine line of wanting to reassure him that they are not the be all and end all, but that tests in school are important. Argh!

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IndigoBell · 31/05/2012 08:24

Tell him he needs to put his all into every piece of work he does at school . Surely that's the message you want him to learn?

They told my DD they were doing tests - or rather they told her she had to leave the room because the rest of the class were going to do tests which were too hard for her.

pantaloons · 31/05/2012 08:35

Ds came home and said he had "done some tests". He was told they were tests just before they started and wasn't concerned about it. I asked him if he tried hard and got "yeah, cos when we finished we could go on the computers."

I suppose I can tick the self motivated box!

Beanbagz · 31/05/2012 08:44

I'm surprised they told your DS the results as ours are marked by the teacher, then checked by both the KS1 coordinator and head teacher before being told to us.

My DS was aware he was doing SATs as they had been doing practise papers. In fact yesterday he said his Maths SATs paper was the best bit of Y2 (so far).

Ihaveaveryleakybrain · 31/05/2012 08:53

OP if the whole class was doing the same test its more than likely it was a Level 2 paper so 2a is the highest he could get; to get a 3 he'll have to do another paper.

Ihaveaveryleakybrain · 31/05/2012 08:57

Bloody phone.

I never told the children they were doing a test as some would freak out and they're only 6 and 7 which is IMO top young to be stressing about tests. Anyway as mentioned its only part of the assessment.

IndigoBell - that's awful!

ThoughtBen10WasBadPokemonOMG · 31/05/2012 09:15

My DS has been told that they are doing "special work" and they get squash and biscuits afterwards :)

isthereanycakeleft · 31/05/2012 11:05

My ds said they had "challenges" where they weren't allowed to talk to anyone else. Half the class did the "hard" challenge in Maths and half the "easy" one - I was a bit shocked that he knew that and who was doing what!

Guess that meant half did L2 and half did L3?

GoatsHaveRoyallyStrangeEyes · 31/05/2012 11:32

My dd came home and told me she had been doing her sats that day, even told me she found one question in particular a bit difficult and explained it to me!

She certainly knew they were a test and she does know about all the levels as the tables they sit on has an arrow above it saying working towards level 2a etc.

I didn't know when they were taking place though.

SunflowersSmile · 31/05/2012 11:37

Goodness your school does make it obvious then Goats!!

DeWe · 31/05/2012 12:07

I don't know if you're pleased with how they dealt with your dd, Indigo, but o me that sounds awful. Surely they could have found an excuse for her to do "a job" elsewhere or given her something at her level that she wouldn't necessarily realise was different. I feel really sad for her being told that.

redskyatnight · 31/05/2012 12:13

We were told not to mention SATs to our children.
The children were told they were doing "special quizzes". They got a biscuit and drink afterwards :)

IndigoBell · 31/05/2012 12:44

DeWe - yes I was upset. There was absolutely no reason to say that to her.

We have since moved school.........

asensitivequestion · 31/05/2012 14:15

My dc's teacher apparently refers to them as 'stinky, smelly SATs' to the children. Not exactly a positive reference then.

Have probably just outed myself to any mums on here who are from our class - or worse still dc's teacher if she is a Mumsnetter - luckily I'm posting under a different name to normal!

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