Sats level 6 people...

[crazygracieuk]

Are your dc teacher assessment grades level 6 or above?

If you pass the level 6 paper then does that equal a ks3 level 6 or is like like primary and a level 3 on ks1 sats being easier to get than a level 3 on y3 optional sats where you need to know more.

My ds is teacher assessed at 5a and in mock tests has been "passing level 6 papers with flying colours". If this turns out to be true does that mean he's been taught to the test well (he started learning level 6 work after October half term) or could he be a level 6 at maths? (he is the one who wants to know the latter)

Friend in the playground with similar ability child says that maybe they are not confident assessing level 6+ in primary so give a 5a and leave it to secondary to assess level 6 and sub level (this is a new school and second year that anyone has graduated)

I have several children in my year 6 cohort ( of 17) who could achieve a level 6 on a reading paper ( and have done so on practice ones) but only 1 who I would say works at level 6 comfortably. She will be the only one I TA as level 6, the others will be TA as level 5's ( albeit very good level 5's!) Similarly in maths I have 3 I would assess as level 6 and would report as such, others might pass ( indeed one year 5 I have achieved a 5C on the normal SATs paper and a level 6 on the extension when we were trying some papers out! There is NO WAY I would assess him as a level 6. However I know there are some schools that would!) but would only be TA as level 5

Do I get the feeling that it would have been far better not to introduce L6 English papers and simply allow TA of 5/6 as the top English grade available at Y6.

Certainly I think DD2 should have read a far wider range of material than she has before beginning to claim senior school grades. Despite this she may well wing it her ability to understand people. It totally depends on the text.

Her dyslexic older sister has passed non fiction reading tests from general knowledge without accurately deciphering the text given.

A TA of level 6 has always been possible. I am amazed at the misuse of level 6 papers that is going on - I don't remember all this palaver when they last existed pre 2002.

I think because the pressure wasn't there on schools in 2002 to achieve level 6. We have been told by our LA that 35% of children MUST be level 5 and 10 % MUST be level 6 or we are "failing" our children. The pressure will only get worse as level 6 percentages end up in school statistics and league tables!

That's ridiculous- why weren't they telling you that 10% must be TAed at level 6 before? And where do those figures come from - did those 10% attain level 4 in Y2?

LA pressure is one (bad) thing and I assume in some areas parental pressure is also there. I know as a parent I have been thinking 'Why is my ds not sitting level 6 paper? He's been level 5 for two years' whereas, putting my professional head on, we do not really need more disappointed parents at yr 7 PCE being told, 'Your child is not really a level 6 yet...'!

Nope, we now have to make at least good rather than satisfactory progress from year 2 and good progress is 15 points ( so in effect 16 points are needed!) , so a 2b is now expected to be a 4A+, a 2A is expected to be a 5C+ and a level 3 is expected to be a level 6!

What! That's nuts.

But satisfactory isn't good enough, we've been told!

I have a lovely tracker that has results for every child in the school on, kindly supplied by the LA. At the end of each year group it has the expected "good progress level" of 4 points per year. It turns a fetching shade of red when we fail to achieve . Two sub levels every year or else!

Yes it's utterly nuts.

If you are a small primary with only 10 Y6 is utterly and completely nuts.
One or two DDs having a good or a bad day or feeling ill can total screw your figures.

DD1's cohort had a bad day. Ofsted downgrade the school under the new rules. DD2's class have done a ridiculous amount of HW and DD2 herself is doing L6 reading and Maths.

I wish she wasn't, she'll be so if she doesn't get them. It's totally unnecessary.