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4 year old in trouble at school

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PrinceCorum · 03/05/2012 10:24

OK so this is our first child at school and I have no idea how tough schools these days are on discipline. Our 4 year old, 5 soon, is in reception class in a catholic primary school. We are having a few anger management issues at home with him and these appear to be spilling out a bit to school now, with him having his name put in a book kept in the class that records bad behaviour. He seems to be struggling with his emotions and temper at the moment, but he is only 4. When other kids wind him up sometimes he stays calm, sometimes he reacts with anger. I'm just wondering what teachers expect of reception class kids - are they given any slack in terms of managing their emotions or are teachers expecting little angels? Should I be worried that my son now has 4 entries in some kinf of 'behaviour book' as ot's called? Of course we talk to him about trying to control his temper and not lashing out at other kids. Some things I understand why he would go in a behaviour book - so he kicked a child who wound him up. fair enough, that's bad. But other things - he threw a pencil... I went to primary school in the 1970s and I saw a lot worse than throwing a pencil - seems a bit harsh to record something like that in a book ?! The school states it has a zero tolerance of violence but four year old boys do sometimes play rough and lash out when angry and trying to deal with their emotions.

Could any reception class teachers comment? Is my son,a ged 4, very unusual in having a few anger management issues and occasionally hitting other kids in his class at play time? Should I be worried that the school might try to exclude him? Does this happen to reception kids? What are the expectations for 4 year old boys?

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Lanita · 27/06/2012 23:32

I'm having the same problem with my son (5yrs) at school, only the schools policy is to send him out of the class after a warning.
I've just started a new tread about this actually looking for advice, but I just wanted to let you know that your not alone.
I think I'm going to try talking to him. Finding out which friends he likes to sit with, do they wind him up or egg him on, how does it make him feel.
Then I want to make app with teacher to see if we can spot the trigger & deal with it differently.
I don't think the school or teacher would be trying to exclude him. I think working with the school & both of you trying to find the cause & how to deal with it, is the best way forward.

Devora · 27/06/2012 23:50

One of the shocks you get when your first child starts school is the realisation that you are no longer the 'client' in the way that you are with a pre-school or nursery. IME teachers are too busy to be very proactive with information-sharing, and there is also a certain amount of defensive drawbridge-pulling against overly involved, intrusive parents (of which there are many at our school).

So I'm not surprised that the teacher hasn't explained to you how all this works. On the other hand, I think if there was a huge problem they would have called you in to talk it all through. So I think you can count it as a good sign that that hasn't happened - yet.

See this as an early warning. It doesn't sound as though your son's behaviour is off-the-scale bad, but it is difficult to manage in a school setting and you want to avoid him getting a reputation to live down to. Book an appointment to see the teacher and show her that you are on the same side and will work with her to improve things.

redwhiteandblueeyedsusan · 28/06/2012 00:07

ask them how they are supporting hiim at school and what strategies they have put in place to help him behave appropriately. this may be the behaviour book.

you will need to work with them to help your son behave, or get the help he needs if it is more than just 4 year old tantrums.

try giving him more sleep? longer lasting breakfast/lunch?

learnandsay · 28/06/2012 14:23

If children do bad things they should be punished, (adults too) end of story.

butterfingerz · 28/06/2012 16:02

I thought there had been numerous studies that shows positive reinforcement reaps far far better results in schools, in controlling behaviour and academic achievement, compared to punishment.

It sounds as if this 'behaviour book' is just some sort of communication log, not necessarily for parents but other staff. Maybe they'll use it as a point of reference for parents evening. If the teacher hasn't called you in for a proper discussion, I personally would not be too concerned.

Have a reward chart for good behaviour OP. Take it day by day rather than judging him on a whole week for example. Focus on rewards rather than punishment and try to make it achievable so that it boosts his self esteem. Its easy to get in a cycle of punishment and negative reinforcement which makes everyone involved feel rubbish. What you're generally aiming to do is to increase the type of behaviour you like, he needs to know that you like it, eg. 'wow, you've been so friendly with your classmates today, let's buy some chocolate buttons and go to the park'. It's easy to ignore kids when they're being easy and well behaved, they only get attention when they're being naughty so they increase the behaviour that gets them the most attention.

LurkingAndLearningForNow · 28/06/2012 16:15

When I was a kid, a little boy threw a texta and the child needed to be taken to hospital for a nasty eye injury. So yes, it is a big deal that he's throwing things.

Talk to your teacher, work with them instead of 'taking sides.' :)

flubba · 28/06/2012 16:36

How did you hear about the book? Did the teacher talk to you about it or your DS?

flubba · 28/06/2012 16:37

Sorry, pressed post too quickly (tired brain! :o) and is the teacher withdrawing privileges (or something similar) if your DS has too many bad comments? If not, what are they using it for? Could you use it more pro-actively to discuss his behaviour with him?

Babylon1 · 28/06/2012 16:38

Didn't you start a thread about this a couple of weeks ago on AIBU?

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