Can parents boycott SATS by refusing to allow their children to participate in them?

[conistonoldwoman]

Just curious...don't think I'd attempt something so radical although I regard this appalling system with absolute loathing.

Where?

They ren't called Secondary Moderns but that's what they are. The schools that the 77% who don't pass the 11+ go to.

It's a bloody time warp, Kent!

"However, I'm confused by the post earlier in this thread that 'high schools use the results to grade the children in Y7 ?' Do they?"

DD's school does. The KS2 SATS results are used as a giude for GCSE predictions as well.

I'm a bit on the fence regarding SATS tests. I am ancient and sat the compulsory 11+ many moons ago. At my primary school we always had a week of tests every summer in the juniors. At DD's high school the children have regular milestone tests, so I think that the SATS are probably good preparation for them.

I also think it is sending the wrong message to children to be removed from school for the SATS tests. How will they cope in year 7 when they have tests all the time?

not according to the government

I don't there are any secondaries within 30 miles of us who use SATs results to set, but they use a mixture of CATS, Midyis, Yellis and Primary reports. Although most don't set at all for English anyway, just science, maths and languages (the comps and the indie have one bottom set, the grammars have all mixed ability in English).

It still says secondary modern in our 'going to school in ......(county) booklet. Some of the SMs applied to change to be called comprehensives, but catchment-wise they clearly aren't.

" not according to the government"

Which bit, mrz? I've lost track!

According to the government guide to UK schools there are no secondary modern schools not even in grammar school areas only comprehensives yet Toughasoldboots child attends one.

If your dc is aware they are being assessed in Y2 then I think you're justified in talking t the teacher about it, at that age they shouldn't be being put under any pressure.

Indeed.

My ds will be attending one in September too- but it's called a High School. In our area, 23% of the year 7 cohort pass the 11+ and go to grammar school, the remaining 77% go to a high school. It is not a comprehensive school because it doesn't contain all abilities- the top set are in a completely separate, unconnected school half a mile down the road.

A secondary Modern in all but name- I didn't realise there were any areas which still used the term.

And in our grammar school county (but properly comprehensive city), a High School always means a grammar. The mixed and boys' ones are often called 'x grammar' and the girls' ones 'x high school'. The 'comps' are x school or now academy. Names can be very confusing.

means that I'm confused with the government site ... and no it isn't impossible to have comprehensives in a grammar school area because by definition they accept all abilities (not every parent goes down the 11+ route ) ...I'm paraphrasing the information on line.

and I can't see how you believe it is impossible

and ?

are you saying that none of the children from the 75-77% who didn't are equally able?

"It is impossible to have a comprehensive in a grammar school area"

No it isn't. I went to one. It had 2 streams, 3 classes each. In Y7 they were 11+ passers (upper) and those who did not pass/sit the exam (lower). At the end of each year, you could move out of or into the "upper" stream based on your exam results.

So, 50% 11+ passers and 50% others. With the ability to move between the two streams. Comprehensive in a grammar school area.

Having said that, it seems they work it slightly differently now, using entrance exam to select 60 or so places based on academic ability.