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would love some tips on how to help an argumentative child

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laptopdancer · 17/03/2012 07:55

Ds will not accept he is wrong and I find this really difficult when doing his home work/study. This morning we have had a disagreement about the 8 times tables Hmm.
How do you help a child who wont be told?

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anthonytrollopesrevenge · 19/03/2012 13:43

You all sound very reasonable and calm. DS and I often end up yelling at each other. He is now yr 4 but is still arguing with his yr 2 teacher about a spelling she marked wrong, his grandma about the fact that she put mushrooms in the shepards pie at Christmas, etc. He never let's go and it is very wearing. My current strategy is to make him do his homework, but let him do it alone, if he gets it wrong, well that shows his true level of understanding to his teacher. He hates this but has hated all the other strategies i've employed over the years, so what to do to improve things?. Both his nursery and now his school describe him as exceptionally stubborn. He does not get on with his teachers, except for the yr 3 one who was brilliant. But now we are in yr 4 and I am exhausted through arguing with him, even though I try hard not to.

If he is disagreeing about an easily proved fact my method is to state the fact (aiming at a neutral tone) and explain I am 100 percent certain of it but that I will not argue and walk away. This is starting to work, the sulk that results from this strategy is reducing in length.

If he is arguing about something that is none of his business (he has strong views on disciplining his younger sister, what telly program's should be on and what I am cooking for tea) I tell him it is none of his business and if that doesn't work send him to his room, otherwise I'm unable to finish my conversation with DH / cook anything other than meatballs / watch anything but sport on the telly. This isn't working but I haven't got a new strategy yet. By the way I am fair about telly time- he does get his share, and I do cook him his favourite meal quite often!

The problem is that as a working mum there really isn't time for all the bro-ha-ha that goes with his homework. We simply don't have the hours and hours that his arguments require.

Oh dear, this thread is too close to the bone and I have typed an essay for which I apologise...

Michaelahpurple · 19/03/2012 13:49

God yes. My DS1 has been like this for as long as I remember. Really painful sometimes - he simply doesn't want to be told, yet loves to know lots but doesn't seem to see the clash in these positions. Pitiful cries of "you are picking on my work" sometimes if I say anything about it. Preparing for 8+ was great fun.......

BerthaTheBogBurglar · 19/03/2012 13:54

I have one of these too (and he is 7).

I also have a 4yo who gets simple things wrong a lot, because, you know, he is 4. And ds1 has to point it out, every single time. He's got to be right, and everyone else has got to know it.

My strategy at the moment is to yell "ENOUGH! Go and bounce on the trampoline!". When he is 32 and having an argument a discussion in the office he is going to get this subliminal need to bounce up and down, and he won't know why ...

I have also been known to ask "Who's Queen?" which, as he is far too young to have ever seen Blackadder, goes straight over his head, but it amuses me.

learnandsay · 19/03/2012 14:07

Anthony, I weep for you. My mother was a real battleaxe. Seemingly her favourite expressions were: it's better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick, life's never fair and because I say so. Predictably I promised that I'd never be anything like her and so far I believe that I haven't been. If anything I'm far too much of a softy. But I suspect if I had an extremely challenging child I think some of Mum's authoritarian practices would have crept into my household by now. Mum's no longer with us, so it probably doesn't matter if I tell people that she used to get Dad to beat us fairly energetically with a wooden spatula if she thought we'd sufficiently transgressed. I don't believe parents are allowed to do any such thing today. I believe she was far, far too severe. But she was a working mum with six children, four of them boys. So perhaps that explains some of her behaviour. I believe that I don't use any of her methods for anything and I haven't any photos of her in my house.

crazycrofter · 20/03/2012 09:33

What a great thread! I have a 7yo dd in year 3 and she is just like this too. Piano practice is the biggest flash point for us. She won't allow me to play the piece through for her first to show her how it goes, or indeed demonstrate anything, I can't sing/say the notes/tap time or anything else which I think might help her - or she gets completely incensed! All this 'help' apparently confuses her, because she knows best! Except she clearly doesn't and as soon as she starts to struggle she has a huge strop and wants to give up. It's hard work!

She also has an opinion on everything and wants to be involved in every decision. And she loves to point out the stupid things her 5 year old brother says.

I have no answers except to pray for patience! But it's so good to know that we're not the only ones. Maybe the age is significant too? My dd has certainly grown up a lot this year and is yearning for independence and responsibility (well, only on her terms of course!).

iseenodust · 20/03/2012 10:27

Goodness this thread really hits the nail. DS 7 is exactly as some of you have described your DC. Trouble is I can remember when someone else was like that Blush

Haziedoll · 20/03/2012 11:18

It's interesting to hear that all our children are around the same age. Makes me feel a little reassured.

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