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Changing school and sitting KS2 sats

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ZF · 08/03/2012 07:35

If a child is moving school, can she still sit SATS at new school in May?

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ragged · 08/03/2012 07:56

Do you want her to sit them? Confused
I think that it depends on the individual school, I've heard some will find an excuse not allow late joiners to sit them.

ZF · 08/03/2012 08:39

Ragged thank you for your reply.

She is already at Level 5 so if she was excluded to sit the exam, it is not of concern.
Is there a deadline the school has to register number of candidates?
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IndigoBell · 08/03/2012 08:54

I'm fairly sure all children on the role on the 14th May have to sit them - unless they haven't been in the UK very long and don't speak English or are working below a level 3.

If she's working at a level 5 school will be very happy for her to sit them.

Feenie · 08/03/2012 12:44

They have to sit them if they are on roll, as Indigobell says. There is no finding an excuse -it's the law.

ragged · 10/03/2012 09:15

Does seem a bit looney, though, if the SAT results are taken as an indicator of the individual school's teaching quality, and the child may have only enrolled the day before!
Would make more sense if the child had to be on the roll for a minimum time for their result to go into the published results, perhaps a minimum of 18 months?

IndigoBell · 10/03/2012 09:21

(This year) For the results to be published the child does have to be on the roll for 2 years.

But the child still sits the test even if they're not in the official published figures.

mrz · 10/03/2012 09:41

New arrival results aren't included in the school data but the child still takes the tests as a measure of what the child can do which is why it is very naive to believe SATs are just an indicator of school performance.

snowball3 · 10/03/2012 09:46

Do you both have a link to that, our SIP is saying we have to include results of all the children in year 6, including the lovely girl who joined me this week working at level 1!

mrz · 10/03/2012 09:57

You have to report the results but they won't be used in the league tables
media.education.gov.uk/assets/files/pdf/k/assessment%20and%20reporting%20arrangements%20key%20stage%202.pdf

snowball3 · 10/03/2012 10:11

Is that only for children from overseas ( section 9.4) ? She's from the school down the road ( who apparently didn't realise she had special needs until this yearConfused who then convinced her Mum she would be better in a smaller school !

ragged · 10/03/2012 10:52

ah, good to hear that. I wonder if schools like to encourage kids to move at end of y5 if they are predicted poor SATs!

DS was probably predicted high SAT results & school didn't seem to give a Fig when we pulled him out at end of y5.

Feenie · 10/03/2012 11:08

I wouldn't have thought so, since pupils=funding, which is what everything boils down to in the end.

That's appalling on behalf of the other school, snowball3. We had a school 'encourage' a move this year too - both they and his mother failed to mention the string of assaults on staff and children that this child had to his name. There was a big hoo-hah and he is now back at his old school.

snowball3 · 10/03/2012 11:19

Don't get me wrong, she is a delightful girl and has really settled in well! But in a small school every child is such a huge percentage of our results that I do get very twitchy this time of year! Basically I have gone from one side of floor targets to the other!

Bloody League tables!

Feenie · 10/03/2012 11:21

There aren't many motives a school could have for suggesting a move in Y6 - and I doubt any of them are genuinely for the child's benefit Sad

mrz · 10/03/2012 11:22

and one pupil could trigger an Ofsted and tip a school from good to satisfactory (which now means not satisfactory according to Mr Gove) Hmm

kilmuir · 10/03/2012 11:25

Is it really the law that they have to sit SAT's??

mrz · 10/03/2012 11:26

yes it's the law

snowball3 · 10/03/2012 11:53

Several years ago I started Year 6 in the September with 8 children. I had 12 by the time SATs arrived. Of the four, one was on his seventh primary school, one was low level 3's when she started, one was Polish and didn't speak much English and one, although bright, had Aspergers and couldn't cope with the stress of SATs and was absent the whole week! We were recommended to them as "small schools are good at coping with difficult children"

Then OFSTED wonder why our results are never good!

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