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If your child goes to a small primary school, say 100 pupils or less....

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Concordia · 05/03/2012 15:44

Can i just ask if you have access to any Ofsted registered childcare, and if so what?

I'm most likely going to have to move my child from a lovely 100 pupil school due to lack of any childcare, and wondered if there are any solutions that the school could implemement which haven't been thought of.
Head says school too small to make after school club financially viable.
No childminders in area.
We can't afford a nanny, even if we could miraculously get one who just wanted to work 3 hours a day or less.

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cazboldy · 05/03/2012 15:47

There is 1 childminder - who has a waiting list!

Groovee · 05/03/2012 15:53

There is a childminder and quite a few nannies who do a nanny share for 2 or 3 families withing the school at one I work at.

Go · 05/03/2012 15:58

We have no after school clubs or anything, but several of the parents look after each others' children on their days off. Only works if you work part-time really though.

haggisaggis · 05/03/2012 15:59

Is there an after school club at a school close by that could accomodate your child - travelling by taxi / minibus.
Both my dc have attened very small primaries (Scotland though) and both schools had shared after school clubs so kids would be collected by minibus / taxi and taken to teh school where the club was.
A local nursery also did after school care and collected the kids.
I also had an arrangement with another mother who would look after my kids after school a couple of days a week.

mummytime · 05/03/2012 16:00

Are ther any other primaries around? Could there be a shared club?

MadameCholetWasMyFavourite · 05/03/2012 16:03

Our school has less than 50 pupils (rural Cornwall) there is a breakfast club, but Head started after school care and it lasted a term due to lack of parental support. Luckily, I have parents closeish and also a neighbour (qualified nursery nurse) who is paid to have my DD once a week. Not been easy though, roll on Septmeber when both DDs are at same school, down the road from where I work, with access to a library after school and not 25 miles apart.

3duracellbunnies · 05/03/2012 16:04

Are there any larger schools nearby which have after school club? Near us children can be taxied (presumably at parent's expense) to another school with after school club. Also have you tried putting up a notice yourself, there may be nannies or childminders lurking in the school population who would be willing to do it. Au pair? If you have more than one child and the situation is likely to be long term might just be easier to move them.

PurplePidjin · 05/03/2012 16:16

I used to be a ta in a primary that size, and another ta and I were paid to provide after school club. So the head may be talking bollocks...

We had squash and biscuits and use of the hall, playground and computer room until 5pm. Space for 12 kids, parents charged a token amount to cover the biccies, bookable through the school office.

treas · 05/03/2012 16:43

When ds started school there were 60 pupils in total.

Now dd is in Yr4 there are 115 pupils.

The school have had after school clubs the entire time whether 60 or 115 pupils.

Clubs have included - Taekwondo, Yoga, Singing, film, Kinexs, Samba Drumming, Art, Sewing, Gardening etc.

Several of these have been free.

We do not have a breakfast / after school club though

lou2321 · 05/03/2012 16:48

My DS's infant school had around 80 children in the whole school, they have 8-6 wrap around care which looks after their children plus another infant and junior schools children which meant it was busier. I thought all children had to have access to after school care somewhere?

They also have some after school clubs which are often provided free by local colleges/unis but they seem to have stopped lately and were often only for half a term or a term so not much use.

Where we live there are also a lot of YMCA after school provisions.

The school can run the after school care separately to the school, I know some schools that just offer their facilities to a separate entity to provide the wrap around care.

pantaloons · 05/03/2012 16:51

A local nursery runs an after school club and sends a mini bus around all the schools in the area. It might be worth looking into?

lou2321 · 05/03/2012 16:53

and they do a 'walking' bus to and from the other schools

PuppyMonkey · 05/03/2012 16:56

My DD goes to a school with 58 pupils. No after school, but loads of childminders around here. I mostly do swaps and shares with friends though, surprising how quickly you make good friends in a small school like that.

lou2321 · 05/03/2012 17:03

also, another friend has a babysitting/childminding circle so they swap 'tokens' or 'hours'. They carried it on from nursery and it works really well, there must be other people in a similar situation to you.

Avoc · 05/03/2012 19:15

My kids go to a school with 65 pupils. There is after-school club until 5pm every day.

admission · 05/03/2012 21:11

I believe that the school is under a legal obligation to direct you towards potentially available childcare under their community obligations. That is not to say they have to provide childcare but to indicate where it is possible to get it from. I would ask the school where you should be directed and see what the answer is.
Failing that talk to the Local Authority and ask them the same question, some body should be doing something in the area.

teacherwith2kids · 05/03/2012 21:23

Less than 100 pupils - two main providers:

  • Local pre-school which uses the same premises and many of the same staff to run an after-school club.
  • Local nursery which offers both breakfast club and after school club, delivering / collecting children from a number of different schools.

This is in addition to the 'activity clubs' run after school by staff and outside providers, which are not 'childcare' so much as 'extension activities'.

chocolateshoes · 05/03/2012 21:30

DS goes to a school of 90 odd. There is no school run child care like after school clubs, but one child minder in the village who does school run etc.

I work part time and swap around with a couple of other Mums and so far it has worked.

thisisyesterday · 05/03/2012 21:33

ds1 goes to a school with 48 pupils

they run a breakfast club, but after school care is provided by a local nursery that takes older children.
i can't remember off the top of my head how they get there though

quite a few people use childminders though

could parents start up their own after school club? as long as they were CRB checked?

CaurnieBred · 05/03/2012 21:40

DD is at an infant school with less than 90 children over YrR-Y2. We have breakfast club and after school club until 6 pm. Both clubs are linked to the junior school and kids from there can go to our clubs using a walking bus service.

Hydepark · 05/03/2012 21:56

My youngest is at a school of 58.

They run a breakfast club from 8, after school club until 5.30, and every day there are two clubs of IT/French/Football/Art/Cookery etc. The clubs are always over subscribed max 16 each so 32 kids a night stay on for clubs. They can then go to after school club when club finishes at 4.30.

Activity clubs cost £50 per term.
After school club costs £2 per half an hour.

ASC is run by 3 of the TAs.

AwkwardMary · 05/03/2012 21:59

Our last primary was TINY and had an outside club come in daily...they were crers from a nursery nearby...they charged the parents and the school just prvided the space.

mejon · 05/03/2012 22:10

DD1 is at a school with 35 pupils.

They have a free breakfast club from 8am and there is an after-school club from Mon-Thursday until 5.30. They charge £3 an hour I think (haven't needed to use it up to now). They have also just started offering all day care for inset days at £20 for the first child and £10 for each additional sibling. The after-school club is in the village hall a short walk from the school but is run by them.

Concordia · 05/03/2012 22:24

wow thanks for all your responses everyone.
I am definitely going to ring local nurseries and after school clubs that operate elsewhere to see if they would put on a minibus / couple of taxis to collect kids from our school. i think the problem is partly that because there has been limited childcare, people with childcare needs have avoided the school so there aren't necessarily many families needing it. but there are a few. encouraged to hear that swapping works - i am a bit wary of informal arrangements but that's just me, in reality i can see it might be the best option.

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Concordia · 05/03/2012 22:25

i think one other problem is that because it's in a big city local authority they aren't used to this sort of problem so the local authority says - it's not financially viable so the school doesn't have to meet their obligation - move your child if you want childcare :0

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