Do I see my DD SAT results?

[rebby]

Just wondering are KS1 SATs something that the teachers see internally or something we see actual test results for?

yes

Schools must report a child?s National Curriculum test level to their parents. & The child?s overall teacher assessment levels as sent to the local authority must be reported to his or her parents.

Hi rebby

Just to say - because you seem a bit anxious - we didn't receive KS1 SAT results until the end of year report was sent home.

However - if you are anxious - you are entitled to enquire how your child is performing on SATs or against NC levels at parent/ teacher meetings.

Hope that helps.

I've always had SATs reports sent out in end of year school reports.

Erm...mrz, are you reading this as KS2 test results or have you been taken over by a bot? Because schools don't have to report the NC test level at KS1, just the teacher assessment, as you know!

It's rare to report the test level alongside the teacher assessment, OP, because it's such a small component of the overall teacher assessment - although a few schools choose to.

Nope Feenie from this years KS1 ARA
orderline.education.gov.uk/gempdf/1445951940/STA125570p_Assessment_and_reporting_arrangements_key_stage_1.pdf

I was surprised by the change

Nooooooooooooo, sorry, had not seen that!

What a step backwards!

I only know because I was checking for changes

Can't see it - only saw this. I don't understand. One sentence seems to contradict the other. Am I being stupid?

Information that is exempt from disclosure
Schools must report a child?s National Curriculum test level to their parents. A headteacher can disclose the marks awarded to a child in the National Curriculum tests or allow their parents to see, or have copies of, marked test scripts, but there is no requirement in education law to do so.

I know it's worded badly but I'm taking schools must as I've got to tell parents ... [sigh] Mr Gove will probably change his mind after he's had his nap

Assessment data on your child is not exempt from the data protection act. If parents want to know the results of tests or teacher assessment then the data protection act forces schools to give it. You need to write a letter and ask for the information about exact sub levels in subjects.

The only things that exempt is child protection stuff and schools are not allowed to disclose stuff about other children.

Or his cringing show of hilarity.
Guffawing Gove gives shrewd and perceptive answers to tweets

Actually according to the new ARA that isn't true ReallyTired

Maintained schools are subject to the Freedom of Information Act 2000 and the Data Protection Act 1998. However, information that is recorded by a child during a test or examination is exempted from disclosure. Further details are available on the ICO?s website at www.ico.gov.uk.

Hmmm...am far from happy with that point in the ARA about reporting - it's as clear a mud. Wonder what our LEA will say, will ask I think.

mrz, parents and children can get exam results including SATs results. It is true that parents cannot see an exam script, but they can certainly get the results.

www.ico.gov.uk/for_organisations/sector_guides/education.aspx

What good reason would a school have to withold such data? A good school will provide national curriculum sub levels if asked? It seems to be extremely arrogant for a teacher to think parents should not be allowed to find out about their child's attainment. Parents often ask for such data for evidence to present at special needs tribunals.

It's not that, ReallyTired - but at Y2 all the other evidence is so much more important than a test. It is a very small aspect to take into consideration. Lots of additional detailed data is required at a tribunal - that doesn't mean it's especially relevant in day to day assessment and reporting.

Yes, but as a parent you don't have much to go on in supporting your child with their learning. We have two parents evenings a year and an end of year report. Besides that it is all guesswork based on which table they say that they are on and the parent's guesswork as to where they might be in the class (I know some children say nothing about what they do but mine give fairly detailed accounts and it is hard not to be influenced by them). I didn't take much notice of academic issues until dd came home complaining about how disruptive the children on her table were for maths, and she was fed up on the bottom table. She thought she hated maths, a bit of help at home, she now says she loves maths and wants to do it all the time. I think it also helps to get a 'truer' perspective of your child's rough academic levels, her current class seems v high attaining academically, so although she is around the middle of the class by her report and she feels not v clever (she says x always knows the answers or y can already do a b and c); I know that half the ccurrent yr 6 passed 11+ so within class comparisons are relatively meaningless.

I'm not sure that I agree with sats as a concept, but once they are done, I don't see why other people should have access to that information but not the parents.

I can see what you mean, but a y2 test result wouldn't give you that missing information.

I suppose a lot depends what you want to know and why. If you want to know where your child is academically then a free assessment from Kip McGarth will tell you.

My son's school is pretty good in that they will give national curriculum sub levels and reading ages if you ask. It helps to be sweet and charming as teachers are human beings.

The problem with the data protection act is knowing what questions to ask. There should be no issue in asking what your child's teacher assessed sub levels are in Maths or results of particular tests. Its also reasonable to want to know levels at the start and the end of an academic year to see what progress has been made.

Its also reasonable to want to know levels at the start and the end of an academic year to see what progress has been made.

I agree. But that information tells you much more than the results of a test, especially in Y2.

God of course. Its your child - you are entitled to know how they are doing at any point.

I'm wary of a teacher that holds back and is 'icky' about telling you without good reason. Honesty and transparency are fundamentally important in my opinion.

More so for a child that seems to be falling behind -

You can get a level 2 in a maths SATs test by answering shape, space and measure and handling data questions well. We had a child last year who only got 2/17 calculation questions right, and achieved a level 2.

Needless to say, he was reported as a Level 1 in his end of year teacher assessment, which was a far more rigorous assessment of his ability.

ARA news - have been on to our LEA who are unaware of any reporting change, mrz - they are betting on a misprint but are checking it out. Will let you know what happens.

We could be solely responsible for thousands of correction slips having to be sent out!