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Child just started in Reception and I'm not happy about how her classroom staff seem to be working with her

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Bigsighfeelingupset · 31/01/2012 16:17

I cannot believe I'm writing this post. This is my third child and I've always been happy with the school. Dd started in January. The school has always offered January entry but this year the council encouraged all schools in our city to offer one entry in September. The head at dd's school still offered entry at any point in the year and I took up January as dd isn't 5 till April and I preferred her to start later. Tha majority of parents took September. However dd was previously attending full time nursery and a number of children from her nursery have gone to the same school so socially starting ater seems to be going fine.
What's not going so well is the staff's attitude to dd. I can't believe I'm writing this - I am not at all 'precious' about my dcs - but I don't think they like her very much.
The first thing was that the class teacher felt the need to tell me (three days in) that it's very hard when 23 kids know the routine and 3 don't. Seeing as Reception is all about learning school routines I don't really get the problem?

The second thing was that she described dd as 'very stubborn'. Well yes she is. That's not a personality trait exclusive to her. They're working with four year olds. Most of them know their own minds and aren't that keen on negotiation. I guess I was just surprised that was the rait she would choose to comment on - not she asks lots of questions or she's very interested in other children or anything really that wasn't basically running her down.

Now today they've 'done' guided reading and I'm jus stunned by what the classroom assistant wrote in her record book. It's all been positive so far but today it's written that they looked at three pages (these are not big books) and it says 'Ok when on task but often preferred looking at the pictures instead of reading the book'
The previous week it's recorded that they (another memeber of staff) looked at the pictures with her for 'clues' to the text! I went in to speak to the TA because the book isn't in her bag - apparently they don't send the guided reading book home Hmm. She was very dismissive and negative and I said that yes she can be a bit hard to capture her interest but she enjoys the reading that we do at home and gets very keen (which is the absolute truth!) She said 'oh but she's just the same in phonics, she's in my group for that too and she won't concentrate'
At this point I thought I'd better go as we obviously weren't getting anywhere.
I don't know what to do. I actually feel a bit panic-stricken. Dd is an able and lively child. You do have to work to capture her focus sometimes but she's 4 after all. She's been at school 3 weeks. It just feels like they aren't putting any effort to do that. They won't do guided reading again till next week. The phonics - she's been doing this at nursery for years. I have pages and pages of her nursery observations showing that she could follow instructions and focus. The nursery staff were always so enthusiastic about her learning. I just don't know how to deal with this negativity.

I have a horror of being a pushy parent but I'm not putting up with negative and unhelpful comments in her reading record book for heavens sake.

What should I do? Or am I being unreasonable and the current trend in Recption is to be negative about the children you have?

I've namechanged btw because if I know you in RL I will be talking to you about this and you don't need to know my MN name!

Sorry it's so long.

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mrz · 01/02/2012 19:21

Of course its ok to read any book what isn't ok is to give the child the message that they need pictures in order to work out what print says.
If the child is stuck with a word in a reading scheme book just tell them don't say look at the picture.
Enjoy whatever books you want together the more the better.

DeWe · 01/02/2012 20:19

I always have a slighly surreal feeling when I read this sort of OP because I can't see the panic about what the teacher's saying.

Saying "it's hard when 24 know the routine and 3 don't" actually I read as sympathy. ie your dd is worrying because she doesn't know what to do when the others do-don't worry about it, she'll soon learn. I'd take it as it's hard for the three, not hard for the teacher.

"Very stubborn"-you say she is: So isn't it good that they have got to know your dd well in that time? I'm pleased when the teachers agree with me on my child's characteristics (good as well as bad) as it means they're knowing the child rather than just looking as them as "Pupil A" or "B's little sister".

In guided reading they're letting you know that she's slightly struggling with sitting down in a group and concentrating. She won't be the only one, and the fact that they've noticed will mean that they will be putting strategies into place to help her.

What you write about "you do have to work at capturing her focus" makes me a bit Hmm. Read that back and imagine another parent is saying that about their child who is in your dd's group. Would you really be happy to find that the teacher is spending the first 5-10 minutes every time in "working to capture her focus" or choosing only topics that another child would be interested in?

What you have said just looks to me that you have a teacher and TA that thinks about the children, and looks at what they need to improve which is more helpful that just telling every parent "they're doing very well".

Fairyliz · 01/02/2012 21:59

Sorry I think you are being over sensitive here. Basically because
A TA did'nt say your child is wonderful and stated a fact
(they are stubborn) you are saying they are negative. How about working with your child to help them to fit in? How about asking the staff what you can do to help your child?

Bigsighfeelingupset · 01/02/2012 23:08

I would certainly own up to being over-sensitive Smile
Fairyliz - if you look again at my first post you will see that I tried to engage with the TA and got nowhere.

I'll see how things go at Parents Evening next week.

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sleepingbunny · 02/02/2012 12:23

Hi Bigsigh. I have a January starter dd as well (July-born) so I do get where you're coming from. Like yours I think, our school offered a choice and was particularly pro January, (unlike the rest of borough) so we took it. I think it was right for us to do so, and her teacher (who is head of EYFS) can hardly complain given that she was the one advocating it. But I can see that she's not always finding it that easy to integrate them and would be really interested to know what she actually thinks now about having advised us all to take this option this year (not many did!).
Wish I had something more concrete to add to help you - but just wanted to say that I'm not surprised you're finding it hard to hear what the teacher said. I'm tough as old boots at work, but any time anyone says anything about my kids I'm lucky not to dissolve completely and I find myself dissecting it endlessly. Sounds like it could have been a lot better put. Lots of people are not very good at choosing what words they use, and I guess teachers and TAs are no different.
Hope it works out and gets better soon. I grit my teeth and mutter 'it's just teething troubles' a lot. Hope it all sorts out

OriginalJamie · 02/02/2012 16:15

mrz. I am talking about beginning books, where there is no sub-text

mrz · 02/02/2012 17:13

They are actually a bit pointless for children who regularly share books at home and don't have language difficulties but many teachers send them home to please parents who believe their child needs a reading book

OriginalJamie · 02/02/2012 17:48

Oh well, I work with EAL children

You can't make assumptions about who reads at home and who doesn't

mrz · 02/02/2012 17:54

It is normally very obvious who shares books at home and who has had a lot of experience of stories.

joanofarchitrave · 02/02/2012 18:04

DS has a wonderful teacher in year 3. Oh God she is incredible. I won't say what she does because it would make her identifiable, but she is individual, creative, sparky, rigorous, WONDERFUL. DS adores her and it appears to be mutual.

It's lucky i know all this - I'm a TA at the school. Because her parents' evening persona is an absolute tidal wave of negativity. We'd been warned about it and so were slightly prepared, but parents have been known to reel out of their appointment and have to be dissuaded from pulling out their dcs instanter. It's a terrible fault in her as a teacher, but IMO it's a result of her living and breathing her class, she thinks and worries about them all the time and constantly talks about how to make things better. It's also true that she takes a few weeks to fall for each class, at first she finds them unappealing but once they have been together a few weeks, they are bonded. Perhaps the staff in your ds's class are similar? Give it time. it's great news that he's so happy.

Bigsighfeelingupset · 02/02/2012 18:34

Er Joan - I have a dd Grin

I will live in hope.

Mrz - we are a very book oriented household and dd loves to read with us. I hope that is obvious to the staff.

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mrz · 02/02/2012 18:44

It should be

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