What age or year Learnt all the timestable?

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Does anyone know by what age or school year do children require to have learnt the complete timestable? Age 6, 7, 8 or 9? or year 2, 3, 4 or 5?

Dd2's set are learning up to 12 x in year 3 at present.
Dd1 learnt them in year 3, but never seemed to try and learn them, just did enough so she ended up knowing them by some point in the year.

I think the expectation is now that they know them all by the end of Y4.

Looking back on it, it was a major focus when I was in Y3 and 4 too - many moons ago!

At DS's school they are expected to know them all in Y3.

Ours are expected to Lear them in yr3, but we are still bashing through in yr4 for my ds1 - he is still in one of the top maths groups though so wouldn't say it was detrimental to his progress!

My daughter knew them (up to 12X) all by the christmas of Year 3, although at the parent teacher meeting the following Easter the teacher told me it wasnt expected for her to know up to 12 until year 4. (she was doing year 4 maths)

DS is in year 3 and they do tests on them every week. Currently he knows 2,4,5,10 and is working on 8 (he also knows 9 and 11, but he's not being assessed on those yet). He feels like he's quite far behind, but I have no idea if that's true or not.... He is expected to do 50 multiplications in 3 minutes, going up to 100 in 3 minutes once he knows all of them. He's not progressing up the levels as he is too slow - though has 100% accuracy and essentially knows them, just slow at recall.

DS is in year 1 (mixed in with some year 2's) and they have just started to learn about their times tables. Not sure how focused this is yet but she came home last week saying that she has to start learning them. I suspect its the "easier" 2x, 5x and 10x that they are looking at. Will find out more at parents evening next month.

er..that should be DD..urgh - one of those days!

dd1 is in Y3, and knows 2,5,10,11 and 3x tables, is learning 4x now. She knows a fair bit of 6, 8 and 12 x too, but isn't expected to iyswim.

I think they are expected to know them all by the end of Y4. State primary.

The numeracy strategy suggests learning 2,5 & 10 X in Y2
3,4 & 6 in Y3 and 7,8 & 9 in Y4

Up to 12 x 12 going into year 3. Although she is probably a bit ahead of the curve in math.

Most of my Y2 class last year knew all their tables up to 12s and the related division facts but it isn't expected

ds is y6 (age 11) but would struggle to recite them all.

He's swift with mental arithmeticl though. I don't mean prodigy standard, I mean he could probably work behind a bar and serve faster than most of the numpties these days who need to check the till to calculate a round. If it was legal, of course

My dd2 in Yr2 at state infants is taught 2s, 5,s and 10's but only to count them up, not in random order. That seems pretty usual.
DD1 went to a private school in Yr3 and lots of the kids had seriously started learning all the tables in year 2 but they went through them all in year 3 so dd1 caught up.
At the the state primary my dd1 left to go private they didn't believe in rote learning - so no tables learnt by heart at all in primary - just 'fact boxes' with useful ones written in next to problems set.
The main thing is not so much learning them as making sure your child doesn't forget them - which they will. Ensuring dd1 really does know her tables has made her a whizz at division.

DS has done all bar 11 and 12 - he's yr3. Not state, BTW.

Mine's state, yr3 and knows all bar 8, 9 & 12. Very mixed ability inner city school.

At previous school 7,8,9,12 were learned in year 6.

Well...DS (yr 2) has "done" 2, 5, 10, 3 and 4 and has to take written tests in the times tables then the division of the same and get full marks twice in a row until he moves on so the expectation is hard to say but I think 2, 5 and 10 is expected this year. I don't know how they do it in class tbh because I remember random tables tests of any number combination 1-12 most days at middle school but they only seem to do one number at a time then leave it and move onto the next.

DD year3

knows 2,3,4,5,6,9,10

inside out and back to front

when I was at primary I could recite them all inc 12s at the same age but couldn't use the information for divisions, out of sequence etc as we learnt them parrot fashion and they meant nothing

DD actually understands and can use the info so I don't worry about the speed they are moving through them

End Y4, but the Y5/Y6 class are still consolidating them.

Y6 DD2 is fed up, she's known them since she was 8, DD1 (14) and Me (44) still don't know them. We are both perfectly good at proper maths

My dds knew them all in year 3. We used to practise them during the school run.

Although as mrz points out the numeracy strategy includes learning tables until y4 as they do in dd's school, I thought it necessary to teach dd all in y3. She is currently in this year and we still have 9/ 12 to complete. I wanted to do this as older siblings under different system knew them all in y3. However, I think its more important for them to know what to do with them, rather than just know them parrot fashion. Even though this was the way that worked with all 3 of my dc's.

I really don't understand why timetable is such a big deal.My two children knew all before year 1.Anybody in any other country would think it's a joke we are doing timetables in y3,y4, even y5.