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book bands, Letters and Sounds, EYFS scale points......

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longrob · 03/01/2012 17:40

Hi all, I would like to know the relationships between

  1. standard book bands,
  2. DfES letters and sounds phases,
  3. EYFS scale points

and what the "expected" (ie, typical or 50% percentile or whatever) levels of each are (I know, for example, that EYFS scale point 6 is the expected level for the end of Reception).

I'm aware that these exist for different purposes, but they are obviously interlinked so a child who is assessed at a level 9 on the EYFS scale at the end of the year must be reading a a higher book band level than the average and have reached a higher phase on DfES letters and sounds. If there are any teachers or others out there who know the education literature (and I don't which is why I'm asking), then I'd be very interested to know if there is any quantitative/empirical research on this.

Also, I'm aware that some publishers use different colours than the "standard" for their books, so in addition, I would like to know if there are tables that give direct comparisons between book colours of different publishers.

Thanks !

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mrz · 03/01/2012 17:53

There is no direct link because as you rightly say they are for different purposes and devised by different people.

Book Bands for example have nothing to do with the Department for Education and were developed for schools to "level" books from different publishers and don't relate to and profile points. Some of the newer phonics based reading schemes have been written to match L&S but book bands cross the L&S phases as there is no direct link. All newer reading schemes use the same colour banding system although some use their own (old system) alongside.

Scale point 6 is often quoted as the expected level which isn't quite true ...it is considered a good level rather than expected

So sorry but there isn't a simple answer

onthebus · 03/01/2012 19:00

As anecdotal evidence DS and DD both finished Reception on the same book band.

However DS got 3s and 4s in the Reading section of EYFS and DD got 8s and 9s.

longrob · 03/01/2012 19:35

@mrz , thanks, I understand your points. , but I can't help but think there should be some empirical relationship between them that gives some kind of expectation/inference, which leads nicely to @onthebus's comment:

@onthebus, that sounds very strange to me. EYSF scale 3 & 4 are
"Recognises a few familiar words" & "Knows that print is read from left to right and top to bottom"
while 8 & 9 are
"Shows an understanding of how information can be found in nonfiction texts to answer questions about where, who, why and how" & "Reads books of own choice with some fluency and accuracy."

From that it doesn't seem possible that they could be on the same book band. How can that be reconciled ?

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mrz · 03/01/2012 19:53

Perhaps there should be ... but there isn't

mrz · 03/01/2012 19:54

It can be reconciled quite easily as 80% of evidence for the EYFS profile has to come from child initiated activities where the child clearly demonstrates the skills in their independent play ... not a reading scheme book.

mrz · 03/01/2012 19:56

The scores have nothing to do with the actual scale point - a child can score 4 without achieving scale point 4 for example.

IndigoBell · 03/01/2012 20:56

Coloured book bands relate slightly more directly to NC levels though.

mrz · 03/01/2012 20:56

but not to profile points

mrz · 03/01/2012 21:03

The children I award 9s are reading at gold level (but don't perhaps have the level of comprehension skills you would expect in an older child so can give a simple retelling )

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