year 2 sats

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would like to have a butchers at sample papers just to see what the kids are put through...anyone know where to find some?thanks

If you really must, Amazon.

I found some in our pound shop a few wks ago

I wonder if I am letting my year 2 age 6 down by not doing this?
He loves school at the moment and I don't want to switch him off by pushing.
My gut feeling is to leave him alone and not push ie just let him read with his torch in bed and write me occasional secret messages on stick it notes to find.

There is absolutly no need to coach for Y2 SATs. They are a very small part of the overall teacher assessment and the child should (in most schools) remain entirely unaware of their existence.

much better to do "fun" activities at home to support your child's education. And read to/with them.

Yes redskyatnight I was cross when my ds overheard a parent talking about a test that the kids had apparently just done at school. My ds had been unaware that it was a test but started to ask worried questions to me. The teachers had kept it very low profile and not informed parents they were assessing the children.
Still feel irritated.

You guys do realise the SATS test mark is not your SATS mark.

My school does the SATS test in January, and then uses it to work out what areas children are weak on, so that they can help them more in those areas....

KS1 SATS are totally teacher assessment. The tests are compulsory, and the teacher uses it as part of her assessment. But that is all.

That is reassuring IndigoBell - don't think all parents round me realise that!

You can get them on ebay.

I think it's better when they don't realise they're doing them. The dd's infant school plays at being a Victorian school with the desks separate, which includes a "special" story to give to their new teacher to enjoy.

If they're doing practice tests at this stage though, then I suspect they'll go through a lot of practice tests so you might find you get one they do later, which personally I wouldn't want for my dc.

Yes DeWe - the parent me and my ds overheard said that her dd had done the paper before at home. Defeats whole object of it I think.

Which is one of the many reasons it's really based on teacher assessment.

That paper might not have been a practice paper. It might be the actual test paper they do this year.

If she does better on that paper then on her work in class, teacher will disregard the test result.....

I hope so IndigoBell.
Felt a bit hmmmm when I overheard!

I wish my dyslexic DD1 had had the teacher assessed system. She some how managed to pass her KS1 reading SAT.
Didn't help at all in the on going battle with the then HT to get her some help.

Hi,

sorry to sort of hijack this thread, but saw this thread and thought it made sense to practise,not for the purpose of SATS in our situation, but so DD can become familiar with the language. She is bilingual and I find she struggles with interpreting the questions. I was getting worried,because her teacher said she scored very low in Maths assessments at the beginning of Yr2.

I have been looking at sample questions, not SATS though, but anywhere and everywhere and I have to explain the question almost all the time. She gets the concept of most sums at her level,but asked in a different way,she gets totally confused. I don't mind if she gets the answers wrong,just want her to understand.

Yesterday, she was on SAM learning which her school uses and there was a question on multiplication which she understands quite well,not just cramming,

'The number of twos in 14 is?'

She had no clue whatsoever and she told me. this happens almost all the time , so thinking should get different samples of how questions are asked so she can get used to them?

She had the same problem at her old school-took ages for her to understand what '3 less 1' meant because it said 'less'.

FreckledFace - please don't worry.

1. Y2 SATS don't mean anything. It doesn't matter what your child gets

1. The teacher will take her language into account when assessing her maths skills.

1. The important thing is that she can do the maths.

1. Her English will improve very quickly. By the end of this year it will be miles better than it is now.

Yes to the English. DD2 is great friends with the elder of two originally non English speaking sisters. School has absolutely no experience of this.
However, the children have taken them under their wing and they have learn't very quickly.

I worry to but looking at the way my dc are going their English is getting better than mine oooops lol!!

oh my days! i literally wanted a quick look, online if poss, to see what theyd be putting my gorgeous boy through at the age of 7! not to coach him! i hate the fact theyll be testing him !

He's tested every day of his life at school. Otherwise how would the teacher know what to teach him next?

here are past papers for you.

i justthink of sats as being a more formal exam situation

If your child is working below a L2, they don't sit the exam anyway.

So a child only sits the exam if they're expected to pass.

thank you,Indigo and Startail. Will try to relax. Her English has improved a lot already,so sure it will keep getting better

Couldn't resist looking at the links that IndigoBell posted, especially the 41 maths targets for reception, and at the risk of sounding like the kind of poster who worries that their children know it all already and are going to be bored in reception, Oh my God, she does, at 3, apart from using the word fewer in a problem. Quite interesting to look at. Hmm.

IAmNotInterested - those are minimum expectations, not maximum.

Reception is play based, and she will be able to do any maths she wants to.

She won't be bored :)

IndigoBell - Ooh don't worry, I'm not suggesting for a moment she will be.

ooh err IndigoBell my year 2 ds has some way to go looking at those SATs papers.
Wish I hadn't looked!!