Year 2 Parents....Children reading - How Often Is Your Child Heard To Read?Help!

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I won't bore you with the ridiculous detail but I would be really,really grateful if you could give me a simple answer to the question "how often each week is your yr 2 child heard to read by an adult in school time"?

It would be helpful but by no means essential if you could add whether state or private.

You may have guessed-I have an issue with my DD. She was declared (loudly-ish and in front of other parents and children) as "clearly behind in her reading" and just wanted a straw poll prior to my fight meeting with the teacher tomorrow....

Thank you in adance.

Fire...I think you may be right and it may be construed as slightly antagonistic.I was just trying to minimise the questions and have listed 6 words I would use to describe DD but also asked some very honest friends.We are pretty much in agreement.I DO NOT doubt this tacher's "ability" or "control" of the class and DD really likes her.If the teacher,for whatever reason,dislikes me then I just have to get over it,and I have already.
All I want is to be made aware of any issues and offered guidance as to what I can do to help DD but also an understanding of exactly what "clearly behind" means in the context of her peer group.
I hear her read every day(ish) and she has improved.However,clearly not at the pace "expected" and I have also noticed that she seems to be slipping.Big words hardly phase her at all,and often she doesn't even need to sound them out or break them down...it is the smaller words that cause her a problem.Words she knew just by sight/memory last year.

Anyway,I cannot thank you enough for all your answers/advice and suggestions,I really do appreciate it.

I will of course end up a puddle of quivering jelly at the meeting as she just seems to have this effect on me.However,I will go prepeared,with notes for DD's sake and hope to get some sort of perspective at least,if not amoe constructive suggestions of what more I can do,even if the school won't/can't.

I may just be back to pick more brains tomorrow as meeting isn't till 4pm......

In our (state) school, the Y2 children are heard 1x a week by a teacher in guided reading (which is a teaching session). Then at least 1x by another adult individually. Children who are behind get 2x extra teaching sessions with a TA each week.

Whoosh - The GP can't check for these type of vision problems, only a Behaviour Optometrist can.

They will check for scotopic sensitivity (also called Irlen Syndrome) - but it is very rare. If she had it she would find text blurry, or that it moves, or get headaches from looking at it.

Much, much, more common is eye tracking problems. If she finds it easier and quicker to read flashcards then text in a book this is an indicator of eye tracking problems.

I wouldn't expect a teacher to notice eye tracking problems. Nor even an optician.

Toe by toe is a synthetics phonic program which you or school can do with her every day. If the problem is tuition rather than eye sight of something else, then this is the kind of thing that can be done. However I recommend Dancing Bears rather than toe by toe for a younger child.

Thanks Indigo-veryhelpful.
I looked at a link that Sugarand.... posted yesterday about Scotopic/Irlens and it was really interesting.DD ticked a good few of the boxes of their short test but Iguess that many would.I did ask her today if she would prefer to read in the loung where the lights are better or my study where it is darker,she said the study because the words were easier to see.Interesting.....

I really am not a helicopter Mother at all,but I do feel that it is my responsibility to try and address /help DD even if she has a mild learning issue.I need the school to help me with this as obviously they spend more time with her in a learning environment than I do.

There is nothing drastically wrong with DD at all,I know that.However,I would rather nip something in the bud,or even just understand any issue if it can't be remedied,rather than just be dismissed by her teacher and not receive any feedback,even when I make notes in the reading record book.

I think I have decided that she should be assesed/tested to establish her underlying ability (IQ?) and then it can be ascertained where her reading/spealling etc ability is.If it matches-great..I am worrying about nothing.If not,then why not and what can I do to help her?
Yes it is an independednt school (not chosen for the academic achievements) and maybe I should expect more from them.However,I am her parent and I will do whatever it takes,all I want is a little help and if criticism is warranted then constructive criticism would be preferred

Right-am off to look at optometrists and little bears......

Don't spend your money on an IQ test!

She would have to have a very low IQ for it to effect her reading. It is def not an IQ problem.

Start off by getting her eyes properly tested. That will cost you enough money :(

School can't do anything about vision or hearing problems - only you can.

Whoosh - ds is in private school and gets heard 2x per week. He was tested at the beginning of the year and is about a year ahead of his age apparently - but very much in the middle of his class.

What I have noticed - particularly the end of last year - was that he was getting much more inclined to read silently - and if you watched his eyes when he was reading out loud his eyes would be racing ahead of where he was speaking. I know that this meant that he was getting words wrong when he said them, even if only when he said them and not in his mind ifyswim. (I did exactly the same as this - but had internallised reading before I got to school which lead to all sorts of its own problems). To help with this I got him to put his finger under each word and that helped a lot - this year he suddenly seems to have been able to differentiate between 'reading out loud' viewing of a book and 'reading' the book and he stumbles and mixes up words a lot less.

DD is in an independent prep school. was heard daily throughout infants til the end of Y2. This was individually to the teacher or TA on her reading books. All children were heard daily regardless of reading ability. Those finding it much harder had additional support a couple of times a week by the learning support teacher and heard to read then too. Parents were expected to hear their child read daily also and all reading was recorded in the reading diary, from both sides.

Hula that id great,and exactly what DD got last year when my concern was raised.
Mistle-that is interesting as I have noticed that DD,having moved on from needing to use her finger as a guide,now has reverted (at my suggestion),perhaps for the reason you mention.....
Indigo...I don't want her "IQ" tested,just her underlying ability to see if there are any huge variances...if her underlying ability sugests she is bang on chronological age but her reading is that -1 or 2 and similar with spelling etc then at least I would know where to focus.
Boy are you right about the sight tests!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I should re-train!
As a single,working when I can (around DD)Mum,this is a bloomin' minefield.
Maybe head in the sand is a better option and all kids will find there own level eventually.......................but my conscience won't let me.Grrr

There are some places that will do a full check on your child to see if there are any underlying 'issues' like dyslexia that might be an issue, and give a full report which might be useful so that you know whether there are any issues that she needs help with.

Mistle-any idea where/how to find them?

There is a 3mt waiting list for the optometrist I hhave had recommended

Well, I've found out from Dr where they do them near me and its through this organisation

Have had a look (thank you for the link) and it all makes sense.It says there is no funding but also give no indication at all of the likely cost....
However,it is great to have all these contacts should I feel I need them going forward.
Didn't our parents have it easy? (in a bizarre way) that all kids were just accepted for who they were,quirks and all and there were no labels? All this knowledge is great if it helps,and it clearly does,but does kind of meddle with my "kids are kids and they are all individuals who will achieve their potential if given the tools by school and parents".
Gah! Flippin' confuddled and having had a crap childhood,constant criticism etc etc,am determined to make sure DD has a better time than I did.

I've found out because Ds wasn't happy last year at school and I wanted to have somewhere to go if necessary to find out what his needs were and how to go about trying to meet them. The issue, particularly I think at this age, is knowing what the right tools are to give them and making sure that school are equipping them properly.

Please don't waste your money getting a dyslexia assessment.

Dyslexia action sells ed psych reports, and dyslexia tutoring

They are not interested in curing your daughter's difficulties - which you are.

For example if your daughter does have eye tracking problems dyslexia action won't help you with that.

Dyslexia is caused by (at least) one or more of the following problems:

• Vision problems (as we've discussed)
• Auditory problems
• Nutrition / dietary problems
• Neuro-development problems

The more severe the dyslexia the more of these problems your child will have.

All of these problems are curable. But they take time, money and patience.

Dyslexia action won't help you cure any of these problems at all, so you'll just be wasting your money with them.

If you are fairly sure you child has eye tracking difficulties, Reading Plus is a very good reading intervention.

Or if you don't think she needs as much help as that EyeCanLearn has some simple vision exercises.

If you're not sure, you'll have to wait till she can see a behaviour optometrist :)

Dyslexia, Really? talks about how easy it is to misdiagnose (easily treated) vision problems as dyslexia. :(

Well.................the meeting went well in as much as the teacher definitely "gets" DD.
She denied the reading comment but then did admit that DD was not where she thought she would/should be given her vocabulary.
Have investigated and it seems that DD is bang on for her chronological age (reading...she is on stage 10 Storyworlds and yellow level in New way if this means anything?) but teacher couldn't answer that q or where she is re spelling age etc.
So,basically,now armed with all the info you have all kindly given,I will be monitoring DD closely and if necessary,have her tracking checked but also,potentially look at the scotopic issue should I feel the need arises.

Am not overly happy but as a parent,it is down to me (as a single parent,it always has been) but at least I know the teacher understands how sensitive DD is.She made it very clear that if any "reprimand" had to be given,however small,DD would take it completely to heart and be mortified.Whiclst I don't like the fact that she is so sensitive,I am delighted that the teacher(s) know it is part of DD....ramble over.

Appologies for typos...it's the "cod" in me

I think DD's (private) school listens to them daily until they don't need it any more. DD is in Y2 but is a totally fluent reader - I'm not aware of her being "listened to" since half way through Y1. My older, dyslexic, boy in the same school had 1:1 reading until the end of Y3 when he could finally read. In a fee paying school I would certainly expect daily until it was no longer necessary.