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My 9 year old ds is having trouble at school.

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BlueCat83 · 07/11/2011 14:51

Hi I'm quite new to this forum and would really like some impartial advise.

My ds is in year 5 at primary school and has told me repeatedly for the last couple of years that he does not fit in with the other children and thinks there must be something wrong with him as he is "different"

He had a best friend who blew hot and cold with him but who he cared about a great deal. At this friends birthday party they fell out and my ds got very upset and refused to join in. I wasn't there at the time but his mother called me to say he had gone in a "mood" but not to worry as she would look out for him. Ever since she has passed messages onto my son via hers and stopped speaking to me. My ds is heartbroken.

The other week at school they fell out again and this child told mine he wanted to apologise and took my son to the back of the field where two other boys where waiting. This child and another pinned my son down while another boy hit him. When my ds started crying the boy punching him said "shall we stop now he's crying?" and his old friend said nah carry on. I went in to speak to the head teacher and told him this and how my ds often breaks down in the car after school and says he's miserable there. He assured me he would take it very seriously and also chat with my ds to see what he could do to improve his time at school. He called all 4 boys in and as my ds had made up with these boys the head took no further action. He has not spoke with my son about his feelings towards school either.

Now my ds is using school avoidance techniques and has been sent home from school as he " feels sick" yet when he's home he's fine. He also struggles with his handwriting and is embarrassed when his teacher makes comments like "don't you ever get sick of people saying how bad your handwriting is".

I have told my ds to stick up for himself and when one of these boys pushed him he called him a name. This boy told on my ds so my ds said I did it because he pushed me and she replied, " yes well you don't tell your parents what you do do you?" my ds said he does not know what it is he is supposed to be doing or what she means. I did not really want these other children to know I had been into the school but she has now told them.

Both the head and class teacher have said he is happier at school than he is telling me and they assumed that he is a child who likes to play on his own. At parents evening a month ago she described my son as a gentleman and a pleasure, now I'm not sure what she's implying!

I do think perhaps he is/ must have some issues with his social skills but he really is a lovely sweet boy at home.

I'm lost at what to do. It's really getting me down to hear him saying how lonely he is and questioning his personality. Any advise or experience of what I can do to help him would be really appreciated.

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themildmanneredjanitor · 07/11/2011 14:53

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RosemaryandThyme · 07/11/2011 14:54

To be honest it really sounds like a change of school would be the best bet, it has been going on for a long time, far too long for anyone to feel so unhappy, is a change possible?

IndigoBell · 07/11/2011 14:57

It's interesting that he says he feels different, and that he has poor social skills, that he likes to play on his own, and that he has bad handwriting.

They could all be signs of Aspergers. Does he have any other problems at school, or any other symptoms?

My DS was 7 before I realised he had Aspergers, it's very, very easy not to notice symptoms in your own child, if you don't know what you're looking for.

Of course it could be anything else as well. Including bullying and a bad school.....

BlueCat83 · 07/11/2011 15:07

It would all depend on the other school in our area accepting him and also he's in year 5 now so I worry it will disrupt him?

He doesn't like playing on his own that upsets him but his teacher has assumed that and left him to it! He is over sensitive and his feeling are easily hurt. He seems very emotionally aware for a child his age. I also felt excluded when I was at primary school but it was fine at high school, so I'm hoping that will be the same for him. He also likes to involve himself in other children's problems. He always sticks up for a child being picked on and which is admirable it means they turn on him. He seems to have a heightened sense of justice!

I'm just so upset to see him suffer. Thankyou so much for your replies xx

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MsWeatherwax · 07/11/2011 16:43

The handwriting and social skills also sounds like dyspraxia. The poor boy, I think being bullied does make children feel like they are different and wrong somehow. It sounds so much like what I went through at school, and it won't necessarily get better at high school. I don't think his teachers sounds all that great either- the head not doing anything about the bullying and his teacher being mean about his handwriting? Does he want to move? Does he have sources of friends outside of school, like at clubs or anything or could he go to something? Martial arts type clubs did the world for my confidence after being bullied.

BlueCat83 · 07/11/2011 20:02

He goes to Judo and he enjoys that. He also has a step brother exactly the same age as him and they get on really well. He seems to get on fine with children outside of school, we go camping every year with a group of friends and their children and he mixes perfectly well with them.

He can be very stubborn when it comes to which games he will join in with and ones he wont!

He likes to stick up for the underdog too. His teacher last year said the way he treats people shows you how intelligent he is and told us a story about how a girl in the class who everyone laughs at (but not my ds) was crying on a school trip as she has no money for the gift shop. My ds despite the other children's teasing took this girl to the shop and bought her something out of his money.

I think part of the problem is he's so forgiving too. They can do and say what they like to him and he will instantly forgive and I think children sometimes can spot a soft touch!

The school tested him for dyslexia and said he wasn't but had some traits. I wish I could find a way to help him. He doesn't like football either and that's what most of the other boys Play sigh xx

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MsWeatherwax · 07/11/2011 20:42

Dyspraxia has a lot in common with dyslexia - it shares a few traits. Did they check for that? It's not very well known about.

He sounds such a lovely lad, just sounds like those around him at school are not.

LittleDragon · 07/11/2011 21:02

I have been diagnosed with dyspraxia and have been told by my GP that she knows I have Aspergers and I have just to wait for an appointment from the nearest aspergers clinic for formal diagnosis. Your son sounds very much what I was like in primary school. And I always stuck up for the underdog. If he is dyspraxic it affects coordination which I always suffered with. I found the aspergers society the best site to find out whether I showed the traits and the best way to help myself and help others to help me.

Feel free to PM me if you want more info

LittleDragon · 07/11/2011 21:18

He's changed that site since I was last on it and taken most of the helpful stuff off to make you buy the book. will try and find another helpful site

Joyn · 07/11/2011 22:28

I think you should take him out of there too. I wouldn't be concerned about unsettling him, he's already unhappy.

cafegiardino · 08/11/2011 12:53

I would move him schools. My sister did this, she moved my nephew part way through year 5 and it was the best thing she did.

flyingsaucer123 · 08/11/2011 22:32

It sounds like the teachers are the bullies and everyone else is just copying!

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