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Gloves - Is This Child Abuse?

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chillikate · 17/10/2011 20:21

This morning DS said his hands were cold and asked me to dig out his gloves for tomorrow.

He's in Reception and I've always before had his gloves on elastic. Hes a little whirlwind and I'm expecting if I don't continue to do this it'll mean a new pair of gloves every day (he goes to after school club at another school so I rely on the teachers to round up his stuff). Is gloves on elastic in Reception child abuse?? Will he be teased for it??

OP posts:

sunnyday123 · 18/10/2011 07:11

txmaxx do a set of 3 gloves for £1.99 - i always get these for school and leave her 'nice' ones for weekends! Get them all the same colour incase you lose one!

SeveredHeadsDragonTheFloor · 18/10/2011 07:15

Three gloves for your triple handed child?

And FFS, get a grip, people.

VivaLeBeaver · 18/10/2011 07:25

My mum did this to me and I have bad memories. So bloody uncomfortable as the elastic dug into my shoulders.

When dd was little I got mitten clips, I think from verbaudet or la redoute. Same job but ore comfy.

MumblingAndBloodyRagDoll · 18/10/2011 07:33

The title was a little ill-though but people.....don't be going over the top on the OP!

She's probably sen numerous numerous "tongue in cheek" threads about how people on here "neglect" their DC by leaving them to watch TV for hours...that's also a serious issue....but it's ok for people to mention that laughingly!
She obviously didn't man offence.

MumblingAndBloodyRagDoll · 18/10/2011 07:34

OOh yes...mitten clips....and you can use those plastic clippy keyring things...and sew a loop on each cuff.

vanimal · 18/10/2011 07:39

Gloves on string is the law for under 5's surely?

Both mine have their gloves on strings, I had lost soo many pairs of gloves before I did this.

JaneBirkin · 18/10/2011 07:58

Please get this deleted. And learn from it. You and your child may never encounter child abuse but there are plenty here that have

JaneBirkin · 18/10/2011 08:01

Neglect is a word with multiple applications and meanings.

Child abuse means something horribly serious whatever.

it's a trigger for a lot of people and will make them very unhappy on seeing the thread title

it's good manners to get it deleted

Pagwatch · 18/10/2011 08:30

Tbh I have talked about my abuse on here but I saw the thread and thought 'oh that isn't great' rather than anything more.

The op fucked up. It was a glib line about something that isn't.

But let us not hang draw and quarter her.

I dislike child abuse being made an horrific, unspoken, silent thing.
How the hell can we talk about it if a stupid line is treated as a vicious callous act rather than a stupid unthinking one.

When we make abuse so vile that it can not even be mentioned I think we just isolate future victims further. I was silenced for years after I realise how bad what was happening to me was by this attitude.

Lauraingells

I agree with some of what you say but not all. Could you try to resist the desire to speak for me.

MumblingAndBloodyRagDoll · 18/10/2011 08:44

jane if peopele are offended then thats that really....but I stand by what I say and maintain that if you can't be glib about the term the OP used then you can't be glib about child neglect either. And many people on here have with NO repercusions.

thefirstMrsDeVeerie · 18/10/2011 08:44

I agree with Pag

I do think abuse is a serious subject and not to be taken lightly.
I do not think the OP deserves the reactions she has got.

I think they should be saved for people who really are making vile and stupid comments about abuse. Not for those that typed a few silly words.

People do minimize abuse. They will say horrible things about children asking for it or it not being 'that bad'.

Lets hand draw and quarter them. They deserve it.

JaneBirkin · 18/10/2011 10:52

Look I only said she ought to ask for it to be deleted out of good manners as it may well be a trigger for some who were abused.

Pag, I'm sorry for your experience and I am glad this thread didn't upset you

However none of us can speak for everyone who was abused and I do think that if it causes upset to one person, then that's one too many.

Sorry...I'm not castigating the OP. I understand she made a silly error and intended no harm

I just think, honestly, that the title should have been more sensitive.

And I don't think it's quite the same as saying 'child abuse shouldn't be spoken about because it's so dreadful'

I think it's about sensitivity because it IS spoken about on here and ought to be given the gravity it deserves

and the OP isn't talking about child abuse, she's talking about gloves.

anyway...I don't really have an opinion on the elastic thing. So I'll butt out now.

qo · 18/10/2011 10:54

I think it's fairly obvious that there was no deliberate intent to trivialise child abuse in the OP

JaneBirkin · 18/10/2011 11:39

Not deliberate. Just casual...a bit like when someone is casually racist or casually sexist. Does that not matter either?

Fwiw sometimes kids don't speak up about things that happen to them because they see them being trivialised all the time, not taken seriously...
So it can go both ways.

Pagwatch · 18/10/2011 11:57

Jane

I know. And I was expressing my view, not trying to generalise about others who feel differently.

But my post was to respond to the notion that "people who been abused feel x. People who feel abused react like this"
We are all different.

I agree the thread should go. I am just not sure that some of the ffs posting was entirely necessary.

Having said that the op has had neither the grace nor good manners to return so she/he is rather proving her arse credentials

PosiesOfPoison · 18/10/2011 12:00

I guess the OP is asking if it's cruel to insist on elastic, abuse is a word banded about isn't it? I'm sure lesson is learned.

JaneBirkin · 18/10/2011 12:12

thanks Pag, last thing I'd ever want to do is try to speak for you, I did want to say something though

anyway
best left now perhaps

JenaiMarrHePlaysGuitar · 18/10/2011 13:07

I imagine the OP had been scared off. Can't say I blame her.

Nice work

LauraIngallsWilder · 18/10/2011 13:57

Sorry pag - I didn't mean to speak for you or imply that child abuse shouldn't be talked about (if it was me that did that)
It was late when I typed that, I was cross that people were trivialising something that has affected me every day since childhood. I have no wish to upset the op either - just hoping that she does return to the thread and think more carefully in future about thread titles!

Pagwatch · 18/10/2011 14:07

Actually can I just add that I hope I haven't upset anyone either.

Big raw subject so we all react strongly, I guess.

JenaiMarrHePlaysGuitar · 18/10/2011 19:54

Me too

Right - gloves.

I think we got through many cheap gloves. String trick was too uncomfortable, but possibly worth a try. That's it, I reckon

ellesabe · 19/10/2011 20:34

For goodness sake

spiderpig8 · 20/10/2011 19:21

Oh FGS!! Sometimes I despair ! we all knew what the OP meant, bno need to be so sanctimonious.
My DD2 is in Y2 and is begging me to sew gloves onto her coat like her best friends !!

JanePumpkin · 21/10/2011 07:38

The thread would have gone somewhat differently had the title been less insensitive.

You can blame people's responses to that or you can blame the OP. Bit of a pointless thread in the first place though really...I don't think the OP is going to suffer from it

It's not like she was in need of support is it

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