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whole books or extracts in English lessons?

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conistonoldwoman · 14/10/2011 22:14

Interesting thread on secondary ed.
What novels are teachers using in KS2?
How long do you focus your teaching on them?
Novel per half term?

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Bonsoir · 16/10/2011 16:11

Re-reading/re-rediscovering the classic literature of childhood is one of the great pleasures of being a parent, I find Smile. And I'm also getting into comparative (English/French) children's literature.

But what of the children whose parents don't read them whole books when school relies on extracts only? Sad

conistonoldwoman · 16/10/2011 17:07

Great stuff Bridget!! This is the best way of engaging pupils and what good teachers used to do anyway.
Chica... I asked if anyone had been using the literacy evolve as I went to one of their 'selling' seminars fronted by Michael Rosen.
Judging by a lot of posters on this thread, as long as you have a love of literature and creative ideas on how books can be used as wonderful teaching resources, you don't have to spend hundreds of pounds on a published scheme.

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moondog · 16/10/2011 18:20

Abacus Evolve
Had a look at it.
Is it a curriculum or an online thing or what?
Is it evidence based?
What's the research behind it and outcomes?

moondog · 16/10/2011 18:30

Thanks.
There is some nice stuff in there.

conistonoldwoman · 16/10/2011 20:20

Yes...it did open up the lovely books of Lydia Monks to me. I have created a variety of English resources based on "Argghh, Spider!"
My Year 1's love it, especially recreating the sparkly webs in art.

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PointyBlackHat · 16/10/2011 21:54

Blimey - extracts only for French A-level???

I did mine in Holland, so an equivalent, but we had to read 12 complete works for our A-level, these had to include 3 from before 1900, one book of poetry and 2 plays.

Similar for German and English (as a foreign language, obviously) and tougher still for Dutch. I felt hard done by for a while there, having chosen to do French and German (Dutch and English were compulsory).

I ended up really enjoying them though, picked some German books which weren't about 1) WW1, 2) the period between WW1 and WW2, 3) WW2 or 4) the immense existential Germanic guilt post WW2. Took a bit of doing, but well worth it. Also had a ding-dong argument with my French teacher about the neo-Romantics and Madame Bovary (In French) and have kept on reading books in languages other than English or Duthc all my life. Fostering a love of reading is sooooo worth it!

BrigitCryptNicker · 16/10/2011 22:08

Teachit has some great ideas for literacy projects.

moondog · 16/10/2011 22:32

POinty, I did mine in mid 80s (then went on to a French/Linguistics degree) and I did plenty-probably not as many as you but a good wad of novels, (abiding love of Zola and Stendhal as a result), plays and poetry. Our nice French teacher used to bring us Paris Mtch periodically to keep us up to date with Jonny Hallyday's love life.

It's mad isn't it?
This niece of mine hasn't read one French novel. Ever.

PointyBlackHat · 17/10/2011 19:16

Mine was mid-80s too, but my mum was still in teaching in Holland not too long ago and not too much dumbing down had happened. I suspect the Dutch are good at languages because we want to know what the rest of the world is saying about us Smile.

I just don't see how you will ever learn to appreciate literature if you don't actually read books... My mum was a bit of a rebel and did in-depth Shakespeare (Hamlet/Macbeth/Lear) with kids who were at the equivalent of AS level (but in the Dutch system were not going to go for the full A-level course). Her colleagues were very Hmm about it, but it really worked.

I still pick up Sartre's Le Diable et Le Bon Dieu and Troyat's La Neige en Dueil every so often and Anouilh's Antigone too.

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