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Phonics - basics

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Mashabell · 30/09/2011 15:53

At this time of year many schools hold parents evenings to explain phonics.
So it occurred to me that parents who have never given the matter any thought before might find it helpful if I explain briefly on here what phonics is. (For me things always register better if I read or hear something several times.) So here I go.

Words are made up of sounds which are blended together: cat is a blend of C ? A - T.
Some sounds are spelt with just one letter, as in ?cat?, others with two or three (ch, igh). The different spellings for sounds are collectively known as ?graphemes?.

For reading, children have to learn to sound out the graphemes and to blend them into words.
For writing, they learn to break words up into their constituent sounds and what letters to use for them.

Most European languages have around 40 sounds, and English has 43 ½ . (The ½ sound is the unstressed, barely audible vowel in endings of ?flatten, certain?, but can be elsewhere in a word too (dEcide).

The 43 main English sounds (in alphabetical order) are as follows and illustrated with the words in brackets:
A : (ant), AI : (rain), AIR : (air), AR : (arm), AU : (sauce), B : (bed), CH : (chip), D : (dog), E : (egg), EE : (eel), ER : (herb), F : (fish), G : (garden), H : (house), I : (ink), IGH : (high), J : (jug), K : (kite), L : (lips), M : (man), N : (nose), NG : (ring), O : (pot), OE : (toe), OI : (coin), OO : (food), OO : (wood), OR : (order), OU : (out), P : (pin), R : (rug), S : (sun), SH : (shop), T : (tap), TH : (this), TH : (thing), U : (cup), UE : (cue), V : (van), W : (window), Y : (yak), Z : (zip), ZH (spelt mostly -si-) : (television)

Because some English sounds are spelt differently in different positions of words (mAY, mAkE) or are spelt differently for other reasons (KiCK, ComiC),
the basic English spelling system uses 81 graphemes:
A : (ant), AI : (rain, plate, play), AIR : (air), AR : (arm), AU : (sauce, saw),

B : (bed), CH : (chip, stitch), D : (dog),

E : (egg), EE : (eel, funny), ER : (herb),

F : (fish), G : (garden), H : (house),
I : (ink), IGH : (by, bite),

J : (jug, bridge, oblige),

K : (c/at/ot/ut, crab/ clap, kite/kept, comic, pick, seek, risk; quick, fix),

L : (lips), M : (man), N : (nose), NG : (ring),

O : (pot, want, quarrel), OE : (toe, bone, old), OI : (coin, toy), OO : (food), OO : (wood), OR : (order, wart, quarter, more), OU : (out, now),
P : (pin), R : (rug), S : (sun, face), SH : (shop, station, musician), T : (tap, delicate), TH : (this), TH : (thing), U : (cup), UE : (cue, cube), V : (van, have), W : (window), Y : (yak), Z : (zip), -si- : (television)

There are also 8 main endings ( doable, fatal, single, ordinary, flatten, presence, present, other),
2 prefixes (decide, invite)
and the use of doubled consonants for showing that a vowel is short rather than long (dinner ? diner).

There are many exceptions to the above which children get taught as they move up through the primary years, but to begin with, they?ll start learning the sounds for just a few letters which nowadays are often s, a, t, p, i, n.
Making them aware of the sounds in words is usually the very first step.

I would be happy to answer any questions about this.
I would be happy to be corrected too if I made any errors by trying to show the system on here without the use of bold or colour.
Masha Bell

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ForYourDreamsAreChina · 03/10/2011 20:19

In fact, re-reading your OP, you list all these variations of pronunciation of the letter "a" and yet now you state there are in fact only 3 ways to pronounce it, 2 of which are "exceptions".

Which is it then?

Bloody hell, I am glad you aren't teaching my child to read, or indeed giving lectures to us thicko parents who might need help to help our child decode "man" etc.

mrz · 03/10/2011 20:22

ForYourDreamsAreChina sleep easy masha isn't teaching anyone's child to read

ForYourDreamsAreChina · 03/10/2011 20:25
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michelleantoinette · 04/10/2011 06:20

Latest issue of Cbeebies magazine has a great set of phonics cards on the cover which is really useful for my ds in Reception as he has to practice some phonics for homework.

Our primary school is a Read Write Inc. Model School and teach it from nursery! It is a lot to get your head around but it really does teach them how to read. My eldest child in Y5 is a brilliant reader thanks to this scheme.

xMichelle

Mashabell · 04/10/2011 07:14

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ForYourDreamsAreChina · 04/10/2011 08:10

It's OK.

I prefer to refer to my degree in languages and applied linguistics (psycho-sociological, general, phoneme theory, morpheme theory, acoustic definitons of morpheme and phoneme theory, first and second language acquisition, bilingualism, etc) , my 17 years of teaching English and the materials I have written on text analysis and English pronunciation for stuff like that.

T'is why I enjoy a good thread discussing the English language and phonics Wink

Btw, I think you'll find the "al" letters in your examples are pronounced /or/ as in "horse" rather than /au/ as in "cow" as you have stated in your last post. Oh, and the "l" in "chalk" is silent, unlike your other examples.

But now I've finished pissing up the wall, as it were....

michelleantoinette- lots of friends of mine use ReadWriteInc, it seems to be a popular one among primary teachers. Hopefully more interesting than bloomin' Floppy the dog!

ForYourDreamsAreChina · 04/10/2011 08:13

PS warm, wart, warn and quarter are also like "horse". Not like was and swan as you say.

Mashabell · 04/10/2011 11:03

ForYourDreamsAreChina - warm, wart, warn and quarter are also like "horse".-.

Yes. In those words replaces : wart sport, warm storm...

Your background seems similar to mine. Do u speak several languages too?

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Feenie · 04/10/2011 12:20

What language - textspeak?

michelleantoinette · 04/10/2011 14:51

ForYourDreamsAreChina,

We've been using RWI in our school for about five years and the good points are that it not only improves reading but writing also. The scheme groups children in small groups of ability (so Y1, Y2, Y3 children might be put together) and there is a strong emphasize on partner work. Bad points are that it is quite different to how us as parents were taught to read and if the scheme isn't explained properly to parents, it does lead to confusion!

However, everyone in our school is behind it now and it really does move the children on very quickly as the groups are assessed every six weeks.

Best wishes,
Michelle

maizieD · 04/10/2011 16:47

Learning to read words with clearly involves a bit more than just sounding out 'a fat cat sat and had a nap'.

Which is why, masha, a good SP programme teaches that:

  1. a discrete phoneme can be represented by more than one letter, or group of letters
  2. a letter, or group of letters, can represent more than one sound

This is taught systematically, starting with one way of representing each phoneme (simple code) and moving on to the 'variations' (complex code)

If you actually knew anything about the teaching of SP you wouldn't make such stupid comments as the one I have quoted which seems to assume that only you are privy to the knowledge that children need to be taught more than just one way a sound is represented..

talkingnonsense · 04/10/2011 19:06

For your dreams, read write Inc is IMO, considerably duller than floppy the dog!

talkingnonsense · 04/10/2011 19:12

I don't suppose anyone here has any knowledge/ a link on how new phonic teaching compares to the ita? I learnt whole words myself, and letterland was the in thing when I started teaching, then jolly phOnics- just wondered how everything developed? Tia.

mrz · 04/10/2011 19:16

Phonics teaching is nothing like ITA talkingnonsense (Jolly Phonics is the new phonics )

talkingnonsense · 04/10/2011 20:07

Well I'm glad jolly phonics is still ok! Im pretty sure the ita was meant to be a phonic system though- isn't that why it went out in the 70/80s when we all went real books? It's a wonder anyone ever learns toned at all!

mrz · 04/10/2011 20:24

the Initial Teaching Alphabet was devised by James Pitman ( of the shorthand Pitmans) it teaches the 44 phonemes but uses a set of symbols instead of the alphabet to represent speech sounds.

spanieleyes · 04/10/2011 20:32

I'm sorry , but the thought of Masha trying to teach phonics has me in hysterics!

talkingnonsense · 04/10/2011 20:39

But a lot of the symbols were designed to be similiar to the most usual spelling - the wh grapheme looked very like a joined up wh for instance. The crossover to standard spelling was supposed to be easy, although I find reading in ita hard. Do you suspect that there will be more crossover to standard American spellings like color, as that is phonetically more straightforward? Certainly I rarely notice american spellings in books or online these days. Not that I should be pondering the history of teaching reading, I'm supposed to be learning aabout read write Inc.

mrz · 04/10/2011 20:49

Everyone I know who was taught using ITA says they have have problems with spelling and they found the move to the conventional alphabet difficult.

Mashabell · 05/10/2011 07:26

Maizie
Thank u for confirming that
Learning to read words with clearly involves a bit more than just sounding out 'a fat cat sat and had a nap'.

And that a good SP programme teaches that:

^1) a discrete phoneme can be represented by more than one letter, or group of letters
2) a letter, or group of letters, can represent more than one sound

This is taught systematically, starting with one way of representing each phoneme (simple code).^

From the issues repeatedly raised on this forum, i got the impression that many parents are confused about what exactly phonics is. So i thought that it would be a good idea to try explain it to them as simply as possible, starting with the simple code, as i have done in my OP.

I did not do this for experts like u, Feenie, Mrz or Chinadreams. I had foolishly thought u might try to clarify what i said in my OP instead of making sarcastic or irrelevant comments in response to every post from me.

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Mashabell · 05/10/2011 07:45

Talkingnonsense,
I don't suppose anyone here has any knowledge/ a link on how new phonic teaching compares to the ita?

They are similar in that they both try/tried to keep spellings regular for beginners. Phonics does it with beginners reading books which avoid words with tricky spellings to start with.

I.t.a. (which was usually used for just the first year of learning to read and write, before switching to normal spelling) used a modified, more regular spelling system for English, with some new letters - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initial_Teaching_Alphabet

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Mashabell · 05/10/2011 07:50

This gives another explanation of i.t.a.
www.omniglot.com/writing/ita.htm

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mrz · 05/10/2011 17:23

Mashabell Wed 05-Oct-11 07:45:28

They are similar in that they both try/tried to keep spellings regular for beginners. Phonics does it with beginners reading books which avoid words with tricky spellings to start with.

Masha sorry but you do spout rubbish.

Mashabell · 06/10/2011 06:54

Many parents (and their children) find the first few sets of phonic reading books excruciatingly boring. This is because they were specially written for teaching phonics and strenuously avoid all tricky words such as one, two, who, once, only to begin with, and then progressively introduce only a few per book in a controlled way.

It is difficult to write exciting and engaging stories while at the same time taking care to avoid many of the most often used English words.

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mrz · 06/10/2011 06:59

Why would you avoid the most used English words masha?
As I said you do spout rubbish have you ever looked at any of the new phonics schemes?