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oh help, have i got phonics all wrong?

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preschoolly · 15/07/2011 12:38

I admit to being terrified by helping my nearly four year old to read, because I'm worried that I'll 'teach' her all wrong (probably because I am a teacher's daughter and am therefore convinced that teaching is an arcane craft that the rest of us should have no access to). But dd is fascinated by letters and words and a computer programme called Reading Eggs, so I have kind of let her get on with it.
She's at preschool (recep in Jan) but has recently picked up Songbirds phonics purple books (so really easy) and I've let her sit with me and blend and decode the words. She enjoys doing this and decodes well so I mentioned it to her teacher who asked me to take in a book she had already read. Did so with great trepidation as I know that once she has read a book once she'll just try and memorise it. They would be better testing her on a book she hasn't seen imvho.
Teacher says that while her phonics knowledge is 'extraordinary' (it isn't, I don't think, she's just interested like many kids) she isn't 'reading' because she isn't guessing enough from the pictures. This my fault, because I told her NOT to guess from the pictures but to sound out then read the words - because I thought that is what phonics is all about. Have I got it all wrong? Should I be encouraging her to guess more? Obv this is part of reading, but I was concentrating on the phonics stuff because I thought that was what they wanted. Bah. I clearly know nothing. Can anyone advise me what to tell dd when it comes to reading?

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Feenie · 15/07/2011 22:09

Tricky words are always partially decodable with a 'tricky bit'.

Lis4 · 15/07/2011 22:24

I am a Reception teacher and new to Mumsnet. I actually think you all need to stop worrying and just enjoy books with your children. If they want to decode, let them. If they want to look at pictures and tell the story, let them. The most important thing is that they love books.

HumphreyCobbler · 15/07/2011 22:29

Lis4 if we all stopped worrying and just enjoyed our children then mumsnet would mostly just disappear. Grin

maizieD · 15/07/2011 23:37

Context, pictures, sentence structure come in here IMO at the earliest stages (without undermining phonics).

But unfortunately they do undermine phonics.

One of the most important, and frequently overlooked, skills for reading is the development of the eye tracking muscles. For fluent reading the eye muscles must be 'trained' to scan from left to right, all through each word It doesn't come naturally, reading being a 'unnatural' skill. If the development of tracking is impeded by constantly looking away from the words to scan the pictures you are likely to end up with a child who misses words out, reads words from back to front, can't keep their place in the text and who finds 'correct' reading physically tiring because of the strain on poorly developed muscles. Phonics teaching, with its emphasis on left to right tracking all through the word, from word to word all through a sentence, is the best exercise for strenthening tracking muscles.

Context is not always reliable for identifying what a word 'says' (and why would you need it, anyway, if you can decode the word?). Context is more useful for possibly working out the meaning of a word, but a dictionary is more accurate and reliable, or a definition given by someone more knowledgeable...

Early texts are not complex or challenging to a child's understanding; they will only have a problem with 'meaning' if a word, or words, they encounter are not in their expressive (spoken) or receptive (words spoken to them) vocabulary. This is a language problem, not a reading one. This is why good phonics teaching is always set within a rich language context, with lots of speaking and listening and having good literature read to children. This is why it is important to talk to your child and read to your child; it develops the language and vocabulary which will help them to understand and enjoy the more complex texts they can read once the basic phonic skills are in place.

strictlovingmum · 16/07/2011 00:01

Words are for reading and pictures are for understanding(comprehending). Smile
Decoding is the only way to ensure correct reading strategies are being implemented, you are doing it right.
She sounds lovely, and doing so well, keep it up.

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