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Lining up to go into classroom in the morning

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peanutbutterkid · 12/06/2011 20:11

This system is new to DC school and every parent claims to hate it. Pupils used to be escorted to the door & then made their own way from there to their own classroom.

We're told it's usual system at most schools. Why? What's so great about it?

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hester · 13/06/2011 09:12

Yes, I'm intrigued too!

superjobeespecs · 13/06/2011 09:22

my DDs school does it, they run mad till the bell then line up class 1a boys 1a girls 1b boys 1b girls then the teachers come out and show thrm in row by row. they hang their coats up/put lunches in the box then go into class and sit. parents were allowed in for the first day only. used to line up at schoool myself both primarys and high school. think its fab saves mad dash of kids and unruly parents not buggering off grin] as i would be the most annoying Blush

mummytime · 13/06/2011 09:39

I would guess its hated because its a new head teacher, who is doing what new heads do - changing things. It can be how kids enter school, strictness on lateness, or the favourite of private schools "uniform".

Personally I don't like the lining up, and my kids school doesn't do it. But maybe I don't like it as back in the stone age (when I was at school) we had to do this when we had been badly behaved.

I also like touchy feely schools, and wouldn't choose a school where I was not allowed in the classroom (although I rarely go in).

ShatnersBassoon · 13/06/2011 09:46

Ours line up, and I've never given it any thought until now. It's not a problem at all.

I wonder if some dislike it because they feel obliged to wait until the line is taken into the school, instead of being able to leave them before school officially starts.

exoticfruits · 13/06/2011 09:50

I go to one little village school where parents rule the roost, turn up late, come in the classroom, get all sorts of strange concessions and it is chaotic!

There was a lot wrong with the old days when you were not allowed in but there is a happy medium and parents need to allow their DC some independence and space. Parents can pop in if they need to say some something, but they don't need to go in for no reason.

Fifis25StottieCakes · 13/06/2011 09:51

we have a circle painted in the yard, everyone stands on it in the infants. They count back, count up etc then go in one by one. Its a small school and if everyone went in it would be madness. The juniors line up in classes. What does it matter, putting them in their line is just the same.

Fifis25StottieCakes · 13/06/2011 09:56

Forgot. We are not allowed in to see the teacher unless its before 8.30 or after 3.30. We then have to go to reception for a visitor sticker and sign in. I wouldnt want random parents walking round our school

sugartongue · 13/06/2011 10:14

we're allowed to take them in until the end of yr 2, althoughthey can chose to go in from the cloakroom. to be honest DS needs that extra minute or two with me to help get him organised and settled down for the day. Not sure how he'd have coped at all without it in recep and yr1!

sugartongue · 13/06/2011 10:15

fifi, we're not random parents - we're parents of the kids at the school! and everyone knows everyone else anyway - you'd question an odd face

sugartongue · 13/06/2011 10:17

oh, and it can't be universal because i've never experienced it - not when I was at school at not at any of DCs schools

hester · 13/06/2011 10:18

We have over 700 children in my dd's primary school, and almost twice that number of over-involved, high-achieving, pain in the arse helicopter parents (me included). The teachers manage us (the parents) with a rod of iron, and I don't blame them in the slightest: the prospect of all those ex-CEO mothers invading the classroom doesn't bear thinking about Grin

hester · 13/06/2011 10:20

They do cope, though, sugartongue. dd is apparently incapable of getting herself washed, dressed and ready at home (she's 5), but becomes miraculously capable of getting herself changed for PE, swimming etc once at school Smile

TheFlyingOnion · 13/06/2011 10:23

the parents of some of the kids in my class get their books out for them, hang their coats up, put their homework away - its ridiculous. the kids are more than capable of doing for themselves but a few of them are babied, which doesn't make them any easier to deal with them in class sometimes...

Fifis25StottieCakes · 13/06/2011 10:23

sugar, thats my point, someone who is not suppossed to be in could be in IYSWIM

nenevomito · 13/06/2011 10:25

They line up at DS's school too. From what I've seen it calms everyone down from running around and then stops a scrum at the doors as they don't all go in together.

I guess everyone hates it as its new and people don't like change from what they are used to, even if it is just a minor thing as lining up.

nenevomito · 13/06/2011 10:27

sugartongue Really? Your school age child still needs you to organise him to that level?

Pelagia · 13/06/2011 10:31

Our school doesn't do this but I'd like it if it did. The school is lovely when its just the children, add parents and it is too crowded and noisy. It does the children no good to be surrounded by the chaos of big people and siblings. Plus I would HATE to start my job with a bunch of customers just grabbing me 'for a quick word', I don't think its any good for the teachers either.

peanutbutterkid · 13/06/2011 10:36

To be clear: parents did NOT previously escort children to the door of actual classroom, only to one of the 5 doors to the school complex. So no congestion of buggies/people near the classrooms themselves, and children were just as independent previously about sorting out their stuff when they arrived at classroom.

New system was adopted, supposedly, because "some" (god knows who) parents wanted to talk to teachers before school each morning.

Everyone says they hate it because ...

Many feel obligated to wait until their child (typically KS1, but some insecure older children, too) actually enters the doors, so it detains many of us (some are now late to work as a result).

The children's day starts 10 minutes later (I know because I now find I have ten minutes extra before we 'need' to be at school). I benefit from the later start (although I presume it means 5-10 minutes off the children's school day each morning), but otherwise I dislike this system because:

The children get bored waiting so long and start kicking each other in line and otherwise messing about (in my observation). Teacher too busy chatting (sometimes with other teachers?) to get on top of the boisterousness.

Some parents stand right next to (mm away from) their child before they go in, so those of us who can't shove in close (because I have either buggy or wiggly 3yo to contend with) can't see either our child or what's going on in the line. So I only just realised how rampant the kicking and bored activity in line is.

It's now much harder to have anything like a private before-school chat with a staff member. Everybody is watching you, and it's too crowded.

If my child were kicking off (hasn't happened yet, but presumably will) there will be a more obvious audience for that, too.

I feel that Yr6s should have more independence than queueing up each morning.

Are that all just normally how it works?

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meditrina · 13/06/2011 10:38

Ours doesn't. I guess schools differ depending on their layout.

peanutbutterkid · 13/06/2011 10:38

oops, re typo in last line, "Is" not "Are"

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Fifis25StottieCakes · 13/06/2011 10:42

No our teachers wouldnt be taking to each other and would watch the kids, they also wouldnt be allowed to kick each other and kick off. I dont think talking to the teacher as they are trying to get the kids in is acceptable. We have to go before 8.30 or after 3.30

Fifis25StottieCakes · 13/06/2011 10:46

The bell goes 8.50
Kids stand on a large painted circle
Parents have to leave straight away
Reception count in 1's
Yr 1 count in 10's
Yr 2 count backwards in 10's or 1's

Our school is state but quite strict. They can only stay for packed lunch if they have a food intolerance. If they dont like school dinners the parents have to collect them at 12.

mollymole · 13/06/2011 10:49

you have too much time on your hands - find something more important to do -
the children will learn that there are things they will have to do which they do not choose to - some of them will also learn patience and better manners and that they are not the centre of the universe ( and some parents may benefit too)

LadyWithNoManors · 13/06/2011 10:50

What if the parents can't afford the school meals Fifi?