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Very disciplinary catholic or a diversal state primary school with lots of afterschool activities for a very temperamental boy?

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confusedperson · 28/05/2011 22:37

Hi! My boy is 3.2yo and I will be applying for the primaries this coming autumn. He is very active, energetic, loud, talkative, chatty, also sometimes bossy, temperamental and disobenient. We have two main good primary school options. One is catholic, known as very strict, lots of discipline, going to the church once in a week, excellent pass rates, no (or very limited) afterschool activities. Another is a state primary, slightly worse but still good pass rates, very diversal school, lots of afterschool activities for children. The catholic one would be a bit more convenient by location, but I really wonder if my boy would enjoy/obey the pressure in the catholic school. Any experiences or opinions here, please?

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confusedperson · 15/09/2011 11:17

mummytime but I wonder if the school has 95-98% results, then the vast majority of children are doing well there, aren?t they?
The application time started and I am still in the same dilemma. The catholic school is only doing open evening, not during school day. The other state school seemed much more welcoming during phone conversation, but I haven?t had a chance to visit any of them yet.
In the catholic school boys and girls are both doing well, according to Ofsted report. In the state school, boisterous boys are doing better according to Ofsted report, presumably because they are more noticed and worked with than shy girls.
Both schools have 2 x 30 classes so of similar size.
I have a reason to think that my DS might have some behavioural issues, maybe not to SEN extent, but he is a difficult child. I still cannot decide, what would be better for him: strict orderly and possibly calmer atmosphere in the catholic school, or liberal, kinder and lots-activities atmosphere in the state school. He has lots of energy to let out, however he does get overstimulated easily.
More importantly, the state school has specialists dealing with SEN, so they might be better, while the catholic school might have no resources or wish to deal with him, in case any problems arise.
I am more leaning towards the state school, however the catholic, I think, they will teach how to work hard in order to achieve something? which is also important.

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mummytime · 15/09/2011 12:03

You mean 95-98% get a level 4 at the end of KS2? (year 6). Great but how many get level 5? And what proportion of boys and girls?

My kids went to a boisterous C of E, and it is great for boys. One thing that would worry me is in the Catholic school are they going to keep boys who don't get their work done in during break? Just when they desperately need to go out and run around.

Personally I didn't move to one area in this town, because the primary school wouldn't let me visit during a normal school day. For me that is a big black mark, despite other parents opinions, OFSTED and SATs. But the Catholic school as a state school should be able to accommodate children with SEN, and as long as it isn't an academy has full access to the LEA SEN resources (it should offer equivalant out of its own budget if it is an academy).

confusedperson · 15/09/2011 12:49

The catholic school: number of eligible pupils - 56, English level 4 or above - 98, Maths level 4 or above - 95, Average point score 30.3, Value added measure 100.9. From Ofsted report: "Results in writing are not quite as good as those in reading, mathematics and science, particularly for boys."

The other state school: number of eligible pupils 49, English level 4 or above - 86, Maths level 4 or above - 84, Average point score 28.5, Value added measure 101.1. From Ofsted report: "The standard of boys' work in general has been higher than that of girls. The gap is narrowing as all staff ensure that quiet girls are given as much attention as more confident boys."

I think the comparison speaks for itself... I don't know why I am bothering about school which doesn't allow visits albeit with good results...

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3rdnparty · 11/09/2012 14:53

Tricky I don't have the faith issue but with ds diagnosed sen yr1 and friend with ds pos adhd diagnosis my non faith school has been miles more considerate and positive, her boy got a 'bad & badly behaved tag at nursery - when a just turned 4 and still getting grief at the RC school even though starting diagnosis process - may not be confirmed....old fashioned strict/calm etc can also mean unwilling and inflexible....

Machadaynu · 11/09/2012 15:34

If your DS has chosen himself to be Catholic, send him there.

If he hasn't, don't.

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