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Learning a new phonics scheme

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crazygracieuk · 20/05/2011 21:41

Ds2 is in Reception. He started without knowing how to read and has picked up lots of sounds and key words. His current school teaches Graphonix but in September he's going to a new school where they do Jolly Phonics. How hard is he likely to find it? What can I do to help him?

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crazygracieuk · 20/05/2011 21:44

I obviously meant phonographix not graphonix

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camicaze · 20/05/2011 22:57

I only know a very little about phonografix but it is very specific as a scheme and won't really overlap with learning in other schools. It isn't widely used in schools.
'Doing Jolly Phonics' doesn't tell you anything much about the methods of the school he is going to. It most likely means that the school teaches initial letter sound corespondences using Jolly Phonics resources but children go on to learn to read using Oxford Reading Tree 'Look say' books which don't really practice phonic knowledge anyway.
I would ask your child's current teacher as they are probably well aware of how their teaching differs from what is more usual.
If your child has made very good progress in reception they might be able to apply their knowledge effectively by year 1 even if they are no longer using phonografix. i'dd ask the current class teacher this to.

IndigoBell · 21/05/2011 00:42

There is so much jolly phonics merchandise out there. Why don't you buy the dvd

maverick · 21/05/2011 08:24

Phono-Graphix is a linguistic phonics programme whilst Jolly Phonics is a synthetic phonics programme. The 2 types of programme are closely related and both are effective in teaching early reading - if taught by well trained teachers, alongside decodable books to practise reading.

I explain the differences here: www.dyslexics.org.uk/main_method_3.htm

estland · 21/05/2011 15:26

Here the difference between Synthetic Phonics and Analytic Phonics is better explained (NOT from a single-minded point of view!):

www.getreadingright.co.uk/analytical-vs--synthetic-phonics/

mrz · 21/05/2011 15:35

Analytical phonics is something altogether different from either Synthetic Phonics or Linguistic Phonics so

estland · 21/05/2011 15:42

Can somebody please tell me what kind of Phonics is Michael Levin's programme "The Reading Lesson"? Is it Synthetic?Because it is different from Jolly Phonics (which is supposed to be synthetic taught at British primaries). "The Reading Lesson" (www.readinglesson.com/aboutus.html) is a good Canadian teaching programme and my son has progressed a lot. It explains everything very clearly. It doesn't encourage guessing which I hate personally.

mrz · 21/05/2011 15:50

It is a synthetic phonics programme

maverick · 21/05/2011 16:20

Having had a look , I can tell you that it's not a UK-style synthetic phonics programme: it includes letter names from the beginning and extensive whole word memorising.

Also, it says this, 'Although the Reading Lesson is primarily a phonics-based program, we do recognize that there is a great deal of brouhaha over phonics. Any reading program based solely on phonics is both boring and difficult for the child and is incomplete. Our language is not totally phonic and many words do not follow phonics rules and need to be memorized. We need phonics to teach the child how words sound. But reading fluency can only be achieved when the child learns to recognize the word as a whole rather than sounding out. A successful reading program must combine phonics with some elements of whole word approach' Hmm

lovecheese · 21/05/2011 17:36

crazygracieuk - don't buy the DVD, its bloody awful.

mrz · 21/05/2011 17:46

I agree I love JP as a teaching tool but wouldn't buy anything other than the handbook and the songs ( maybe the games CDrom)

WowOoo · 21/05/2011 18:05

My son loved and still loves the CD. It comes with the booklet with all the actions and songs.

WowOoo · 21/05/2011 18:07

I don't think he'll find it that hard by the way. It starts off easy and gets trickier towards the end.

mrz · 21/05/2011 19:20

If he's done a year of Phonographix he should know all/most of the phonemes and be ready to move onto the next stage.

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