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Is there a list of red level words?

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Sops · 12/04/2011 08:09

ds is a very reluctant reader (of school books).
I have had the idea of making him some books on his favourite subject (ninjago) in an effort ot engage him.
Does anyone know of a list of words suitable for red level ORT readers?

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gorionine · 12/04/2011 08:13

Not sure what you ae talking about but maybe this? What year is your Ds in maybe my link is for younger children but you should be able to find the one that fits your Ds's age.

Sops · 12/04/2011 08:26

gorionine thanks for that link, it'll be useful- I was just wondering at what age they'd be expected be able to read all those.
ds is in reception at the moment, 5 next week.

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gorionine · 12/04/2011 08:30

one is better it tells you which year words they are.

gorionine · 12/04/2011 08:30

This one is better it tells you which year words they are.

PlopPlopPing · 12/04/2011 08:48

I think you just need to look at the books the school give him to see which words would be suitable.

Mashabell · 12/04/2011 08:55

I think u are after words with phonically regular pronunciation. There are plenty of those on the Learning to Read page at [www.EnglishSpellingProblems.co.uk]

They cover all the basic phonic patterns. After those, the most important ones to learn are the high frequency words with tricky letters.
Some of them are clearly trickier than others:

any, many, said, laughed, could, couldn?t, thought, through, would, you, your, four, do, don?t, into, most, mother, oh, once, only, other, another, people, to, two, who, come, coming, eve5yone, gone, one, some, something,
bear, great, head, ready, find, friends, key, I?ll, I?m, ever, every, eyes, 46

never, there, there?s, were, where, are, have, live, lived, river, give, giant, magic,
pulled, put,

work, down, grow, how, know, now, snow, town, window,
the, be, he, he?s, me, she, we,

Mr, Mrs,
old, cold, told, all, called, small, what, want, wanted, was, water,

book, good, look (looked, looking), took,
after, asked, can?t, fast, last, plants,

AbigailS · 12/04/2011 09:25

If your child's school follows letters and sounds this site may be useful:
www.letters-and-sounds.com/
The word cards are free to download and Reception children cover phases 2, 3 & 4. I use them to make bingo cards, cards to read during homemade board games, pinned on fridge, etc.

blackeyedsusan · 12/04/2011 09:45

All I can thinkof are books from the library, which are reading schemish, but grouped in 3 levels. try Either Tadpoles or Leapfrog from Fanklin Watts (publisher)

We shared reading books that dd liked, she read the words she knew and I filled in the rest, also having a go at some of the regular words.

easterbunnyhopsback · 12/04/2011 16:11

Are you talking about RWI red words (i.e. the tricky words)?

Sops · 12/04/2011 19:54

Thanks, I checked out all those links and made up (what I thought was) a pretty good ninjago story with it. used lots of good pics off the internet- ds still came up with a thousand excuses/distractions to avoid doing it!
I'm feeling like just giving up on reading altogether!

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maverick · 12/04/2011 21:39

No wonder he's reluctant, Sops, the old (Classic) ORT readers, still in use in many schools, are whole language reading books.

The school needs to follow the new government guidelines and get some decodable readers for him to practise his phonics. There are lots of excellent schemes available now:
www.dyslexics.org.uk/resources_and_further_11.htm

Please don't try to get him to memorise the HFWs, or any words, as whole units. Stick to decoding grapheme by grapheme-all through-the word (only use words which include spellings he's been taught.

Have a look at the Phonics International guidance book here:
www.phonicsinternational.com/guidance_book.pdf
-and my page on teaching reading using synthetic phonics here:
www.dyslexics.org.uk/main_method_3.htm

HTH

Mashabell · 13/04/2011 07:06

Maverick
"Stick to decoding grapheme by grapheme-all through-the word".

So how do u decode 'all through the word' have, gave
and thought through?

Sops
Making decodable little books based on your child's interests seems like a great idea to me, if u have the time. I have already said that the Learning to Read page on my website www.EnglishSpellingProblems.co.uk has plenty of, but here are the regularly spelt ones among the 300 most used English words:
a, am, an, and, as, at, back, bad, can, cat, dad, gran, had, has, hat, man, ran, sat, than, that, that?s, rabbit, began, granddad, animals, dragon,
bed, best, better, eggs, end, fell, get, help, her, let, let?s, new, next, red, tell, them, then, very, well, went, when, yes,
big, did, fish, him, his, if, in, is, it, it?s, its, king, little, miss, still, thing, things, think, this, which, will, wind, wish, with, children, didn?t, different,
box, dog, fox, from, got, hot, long, lots, not, of, off, on, stop, top, across, along, floppy, stopped,
but, duck, fun, just, much, mum, must, run, sun, under, up, us, jumped, suddenly,

been, feet, green, keep, need, queen, see, sleep, three, tree, trees,
each, eat, please, sea, tea, came,
gave, made, make, place, take, baby, even, here, these, we?re,
I, inside, I?ve, like, liked, time, while, home, over, clothes, go, going, no, so, use,

car, dark, hard, park, garden, birds, first, girl, before, door, for, horse, more, morning, or, food, room, school, soon, too, our, out, found, house, mouse, round, shouted, about, around,

away, day, may, play, say, way, they, by, fly, my, why, night, right, air, their, cried, again, because, saw,
boat, boy,

maverick · 13/04/2011 12:48

I'm sorry, Masha, but long ago I decided not to engage with you and your obsessive word listing any more. Whenever a highly experienced professional tries to explain, yet again, how synthetic phonics works you just cover your ears and shut your mind.

I use a beautifully designed and structured synthetic phonics programme, described as 'remarkable' by the SpLD Trust -using it I can teach virtually anyone to read and spell. End of story.

See my page on teaching reading using synthetic phonics here:
www.dyslexics.org.uk/main_method_3.htm

mrz · 13/04/2011 13:32

I assume the OP means words found in ORT stage 2 books?

house
old
too
by
day
made
time
I'm
if
help
Mrs
called
here
off
asked
saw
make
an
heliumballoons · 13/04/2011 14:42

Sops My DS is a reluctant reader still now, 6yo and yr 2. He can read words fairly well and can decode anyword but has no interest. He is the same with writing.

Basically I worked on fostering an interest. I read him the Aliens in Underpants and Horrid Henry stories and follow the words with my finger. He also likes looking at non fiction books about transport.

He can read things he wants to/ needs too and is an avereage reader and beginning to chose to write.

It's great you are trying everything you can but its a lot of effort for you when he still will avoid it. Might be better to give him a map and get him to follow it and walk the route.

Or make a treasure hunt. You can do this using the words Mrs has siad are the level your DS is at.

eg.
make sure you put on your shoes.
Ready? We're off
Walk to the shops
ask someone what time it is............etc etc
time to go home

the key words are in bold

The idea IME and IMO is to get your DS to read without him actually feeling pressured to do it or even realising. Grin

HTH

PS Love the Alphabet Code where can I get a larger version of this?

heliumballoons · 13/04/2011 15:39

Thanks Smile

Sops · 13/04/2011 16:25

helium: 'The idea IME and IMO is to get your DS to read without him actually feeling pressured to do it or even realising.'

That is exactly the problem, he can read quite fluently when he actually looks at the words, but usually he will look anywhere but at them! He loves being read to and we are a very booky house so i will keep coming up with ideas.

Thanks.

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heliumballoons · 13/04/2011 17:02

Are you sure we don't have the same DS Grin

According to mine everybook he brings home from school has the first page opening line: I can't read this its too hard and the stories boring. Wink

He will then deliberatly read it slowly looking at everything but the words. He is reading the equivilent of ORT stage 9 so is actually very able.

Another thing I do is look at Google maps and print them off for journies - both new and regular. He then reads me the directions. Downside is he's now convinced himself and others that Mummy is rubbish at finding places. Grin

Another one that worked for me was DVD stories or even subtitles on Cbeebies. Smile

I really feel your pain - especially when you get encouraged to read daily for 10 minutes with your child. Yes this works great for most but some of us just have to be a bit more creative!!

Sops · 13/04/2011 17:46

My ds always spells out I.CA.N.T.R.E.A.D.T.H.I.S when he starts a book, they are always too hard and boring too, and he does the deliberate mistakes too 'S.P.I.N, serpliin'
tbh he has a big problem doing anything that anyone asks him to, my only hope is that one day he will just decide he wants to do it himself!

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amidaiwish · 13/04/2011 18:55

the "red" books ORT is level 4, he is doing well to be on them already. i wouldn't pressurise him, that's a good attainment level by now in reception.

heliumballoons · 13/04/2011 19:05

My DS asked to go to bed early with a book to read. Shock

It is a times tables book. Grin He doesn't particulary like reading or writing but loves and is way above average at maths. sops I wouldn't worry. My DS went through the same indignant stage and is now average and above at school and puts in lots of effort now. TBH I only really care if he tries hard.

Sops · 13/04/2011 22:31

Red on ORT is just level two, I'm not really worried about how he is doing except that I'm pretty sure he is capable of a lot more.
His social and emotional development is so behind his classmates I guess I am just hoping for progress in some areas, reading seems the easiest for me to influence but even my (really quite good) made up story about Ninjago (which he is completely obsessed with) couldn't entice him to read without the usual avoidance tactics so I wonder if anything ever will...

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Mashabell · 14/04/2011 11:00

Maverick
I can teach virtually anyone to read and spell.
That's incredible. Sadly, most teachers can't, because many children have great difficulty coping with the changing letter sounds of English (any April, on only, do go) and even more with the different spellings for identical sounds (scoop, soup, move). Therefore quite a few continue to struggle with reading and spelling, even with very good teaching.

But I really cannot see how your boast is relevant to the current topic.
I provided some word lists because Sops asked for them. Many teachers use the word lists on my website www.englishspellingproblems.co.uk for making their own reading and spelling resources. Why should that bother u?
Is it because they are free and u are trying to sell similar ones?

Feenie · 14/04/2011 12:00

Maverick isn't trying to sell anything, Masha, you loon. She just speaks from years of experience in teaching children to read successfully, as do many of us - unlike you, a retired secondary teacher who last taught reading in the seventies.

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