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Sorry it's my ds again...these are his current scores on the FOundation Stage Profile. How much to worry?

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emkana · 14/03/2011 23:38

He's doing okay-ish in the social and emotional development bit. (score of about 3 in those areas).

In communication, language and literacy he scores 0 for writing, 2 for reading and 1 for linking sounds and letters.

In the numeracy bit he currently scores 1 for numbers for labels and counting, 1 for calculating and 0 for the shape and measures bit.

He is on school action plus for his physical disabilities and for sppech and language, and gets extra phonics and is in a social skills group.

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IndigoBell · 15/03/2011 09:46

Is he in Nursery or Reception?

The scores don't sound good do they :(

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emkana · 15/03/2011 12:00

Reception

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IndigoBell · 15/03/2011 12:04

:(

julybutterfly · 15/03/2011 12:28

If that was my child after 6 months at school (I'm assuming it was a September start not a January one?) then I'd be very concerned. School do seem to be helping him with the extras he's getting - whether it's enough is another matter though.

JiltedJohnsJulie · 15/03/2011 12:30

emkana haven't got any help sorry, just wanted to say that it seems good that the school are helping him and have you tried posting in the Special Needs section as you may get some posters with more experience.

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emkana · 15/03/2011 12:49

Yes he started in September.

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ruddynorah · 15/03/2011 12:55

Out teacher said level 3 is about average on entry to school. However, it sounds like your ds is getting lots of support. Are you worried it isn't enough? How often do you speak to the teacher?

IndigoBell · 15/03/2011 13:19

Ok. So you should be worried.

But the real question is what should you and school be doing about your worry?

Does he need a statement?

What would help him progress?

There is also a legal defn of 'adequate progress', which he clearly isn't making. So you need to discuss with school what they can do to ensure he makes 'adequate progress'.

(Remember you can apply for a statement yourself - even if school don't think he needs one. )

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emkana · 15/03/2011 17:42

Thank you.

Any reception teachers around?

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Littlefish · 15/03/2011 18:44

Emkana - you need to push the school to apply for a statement, or apply for one yourself.

According to his teachers, has he made any progress since September?

His scores are low I'm afraid. Don't wait until the end of the year to start the Statutory Assessment process - get things moving now.

In the meantime, it's good that the school are putting in extra provision for him. However, until provision is specified in a statement, the school can withdraw it if they want to (or don't have the budget to provide it).

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emkana · 15/03/2011 20:16

He has made a little bit of progress - gone from 0 to 1 in calculating for example.

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julybutterfly · 15/03/2011 20:42

'He has made a little bit of progress - gone from 0 to 1 in calculating for example'

All that means is that he's learnt to 'Respond to the vocabulary involved in addition and subtraction in rhymes and games' in 6 months

I agree with littlefish in that you need to get the ball rolling now. There is the chance that it all could 'click' with him but is it worth waiting to see? I don't think it is

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emkana · 15/03/2011 21:23
Sad
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julybutterfly · 15/03/2011 21:27

Sorry I didn't mean my post to sound harsh or upset you. Maybe a chat with his teacher would be of some help. Tell her your concerns about his lack of progress and see what else she can suggest

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emkana · 15/03/2011 21:28

No no it's not your post that upset me, just the whole situation. Parents evening next week, so will have a chat.

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ruddynorah · 15/03/2011 21:32

do you know what all the levels are? have you got the detail? did he go to pre school?

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emkana · 15/03/2011 21:50

At the moment I only know the scores I put into the OP, will ask for more details at parents evening.

The thing is with the SALT that he hasn't had any therapy so far, he has just been assessed over and over.

No physical reason why he can't write.

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ruddynorah · 15/03/2011 21:57

this chart gives you what each score means.

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emkana · 15/03/2011 22:29

Yes I think I do.

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emkana · 21/03/2011 20:59

Parents evening tonight. Teacher talking quite "unworriedly" about ds's progress, but nevertheless thinks it would do no harm to apply for a statement. She feels he would have made far more progress if he was full time, but I'm not sure how much difference a few more afternoons in school would make. I know she means feel, but her partly blaming the part time thing kindle of annoys me, because it sorts of puts the blame on me, because it's mynchoice to keep him part time. He did half days until christmas, one full day after Christmas and is now doing two full and three half days.

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youjusthaventearnedityetbaby · 21/03/2011 21:08

My ds's scores are not much higher to be honest but he is a July baby, how old is your ds??
Mine has been full time since October, he's very happy, loves the routine and social side of things... I've definitely seen an improvement in things like listening and understanding... his memory is great, he is definitely better at maths. He knows all his phonics but he cannot or will not write confidently yet... He is more confident in himself now (has always been shy)and contributes to class discussion a lot more. He is lucky however to be in a class of 26 in a small village school.

Blu · 21/03/2011 21:17

Emkana, no harm in getting the ball rolling for an assessment for a statement if you think that he has and will have difficulty learning.

But DS wasn't even in school until the january term, and in Reception they didn't really start on much - by the end of reception DS, a July baby, was on the 'stepping stones' rather than the achieved levels (I can't remember the exact terminology, but it meant he couldn't actually do anything!).

DS got 3s for his KS2 SATS. Now it may be that your ds does have difficulties, and a bit of extra help can't ever be bad - it can always be abandoned if he turns out not to need it in the longer term. And he may well come on in leaps and bounds once his speech has support. Has his hearing been tested (I would guess yes!), and eyesight?

Does he enjoy school?