Need help understanding Foundation Profile scores

[Mij]

Hello everyone

Just had our first teacher consultation for my January starting DD1, we were so busy talking about other stuff that there was no time to discuss the Foundation Stage Profile Pupil Sheet they said they were required by law to give me.

There's headings, examples of statements and a score next to each one. I've no idea if the 'scores' are out of a number, or they're expected to reach a certain score on a continuum from 4 to age 16, or what. She's got scores from 3 to 7, mostly 4s and 5s.

Is there a resource I can look at (that's not the full assessment list) that can help me interpret what the hell it all means?

Thanks

Fair enough. Just wanted to make sure dc was progressing as we have a few doubts with the teacher, as do many parents. We thought we could use these scores an indicator.

Question: what is the difference between scoring on the first few days in reception to get an entry score as mentioned above, and a score given at the end of a nursery class. There is only the summer holidays in between. Sorry. honestly not trying to be narky, just interested.

XX said 'if things are far away they seem to look smaller. thsi is perspective' PSR + N1 (9d)

sorry but that doesn't meet the criteria for any of the profile points I'm afraid

if they are saying it is evidence for Problem Solving Reasoning and Number 9 it just doesn't match

A good reception teacher won't be scoring children on their first few days (weeks) to get an entry score

Sorry that was, mentioned by Gootakeepchanging in post at 20:01...
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There is no average score on starting reception. This information is not collected. Some las may collect and may give an indication for their la but it is not national or expected. '

The nursery class should not be scoring children at all.

The reception class should not be scoring children in the first few days. It is really crap practice.

They should be assessing childrens progress against the development matters. This does then run into the elgs. Some LAs use trackers that they put the eyfs profile statements (which are not all the same as development matters onto) alongside development matters. A by product is that you then get an on entry eyfsp score. But it is a by product and the eyfsp should not be used as the reception assessment. They should use development matters and only use the eyfsp as it is intended. It is an end of reception assessment. I am not opposed to it being recorded on an electronic profile if it is as a by-product alongside the much broader based assessment using development matters.

It is usually collected over the first half term allowing children time to settle into a new environment with new people

and not recorded as profile points

Thanks for all of the information ladies. Really interesting and useful! Still trying to get a handle on it all and have lots to learn, so this is great.

I didnt meant to hijack the OPs thread, sorry

As I mentioned, there are a group of parents that are trying to ascertain whether the children are being let down by the teaching as we feel they might be. We thought this would be one of the tools we could use to determine this. We were wrong! :) But I am happy to be educated, so again, a big thank you!

Ofsted ( who actually are wrong but another matter) say that on entry to reception a typical child will be working within the 40-60 months having met all of the 30-50 months.

Agghh! This looks really interesting and helpful but I've been running up and down stairs all night to a poorly grouchy baby so will have to catch up tomorrow. Night all.

Thanks everyone, interesting discussion. My only interest in the scores was really to ascertain how DD1 is engaging with school, as she appears to be happy when there but is actually pretty meh about it behind closed doors. She was excited by doing new stuff at nursery but much less so now, so I was looking for clues in these scores, wondering if, for example, she's not demonstrating skills I know she has because she's bored/overwhelmed/something else. I'm actually not really interested in measures of attainment at this age.

I've had another chat with the teacher now, and they say they use them as a guide to check progression, so is of more interest to the September starters. Plus they're frustrated by the format as they can't exclude stuff they haven't even done in class yet. But I guess that's because they shouldn't be assessing for months anyway!

For context, this is a very popular school with an outstanding ofsted report - only part of the picture I know - which makes all the right noises about nurture and not just academically driven