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Is it ok with Reception still not having had a book yet?

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emy72 · 08/03/2011 15:58

Just wanted to know whether I should be concerned or not.

My DS1 started Reception in September and they have been doing all the phonics, sounds etc....

They still haven't had a book sent home from the reading scheme.

We did enquire back in Feb and the teacher said that they would be starting on the reading scheme mid Feb. But this hasn't happened yet.

I ended up buying some easier phonics books to get my DS1 to practise the sounds/practise reading.

He loves reading but normal books are too complex for him and he just ends up trying a couple of words and wanting me to read the rest.

He's doing ok with the phonics ones, but I just wonder whether not having had books this late on in Reception is normal/should cause me concern.

Any opinions appreciated.

PS I do have an older DD but she went to a different school in reception and had books from day 1.

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mathanxiety · 09/03/2011 20:24

So entirely appropriate for children even without SEN, and a good foundation for later learning of phonics.

mrz · 09/03/2011 20:28

No it would be part of the daily routine alongside phonics teaching as it is complimentary.

emy72 · 09/03/2011 20:51

Hmmm all interesting stuff, thanks.

The thing is, (without sounding defensive!), I know that my son doesn't have a problem as such as he knew his letter sounds at 18 months old and was blending words soon after that, certainly before his 2nd birthday. We never pushed it though and put our focus very firmly on the massive enjoyment of books that he has - so lots of stories etc from a very early age, and very much doing and done all the list provided above.

He never forgot his letter sounds, but the problem since starting school is this: they covered one different sound "ae" "au" "oo" "er" "ue" a day and then nothing at all for a long stretch. No books suggested home or "tricky" words to help practice there - of course a child is going to forget them.

We have, out of our own initiative, got him to write words down to practise these - it was harder to just get him reading without a more structured "scheme" as he gets disheartened quickly and wants to hear the story.

However, my main worry in all this is that I would expect some sort of school driven reading method - not necessarily a scheme but something in partnership with home to get the children reading. The lack of this worries me because clearly the kids are left to their own devices on this and there doesn't seem to be any sign of them encouraging the children to read.

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mrz · 09/03/2011 20:57

Covering a sound a day is pretty standard but having a long break isn't

IwishIwasmoreorganised · 09/03/2011 20:59

DS1 has only had 4 books home so far and he's in reception.

mathanxiety · 09/03/2011 20:59

Maybe the avenue to him reading will be his enjoyment of stories? Nothing kills off an interest in reading faster than focusing on the sounds at the expense of content, ime, for someone who wants to find out 'what happened next'. Does he sit close to you when you read to him with you pointing to the words as you go at a normal pace?

mrz · 09/03/2011 21:04

It will vary from school to school and child to child but if emy's son was reading before he started school I can't think of any reason why the school wouldn't be supporting this.

mathanxiety · 10/03/2011 01:41

He reads to some extent but doesn't attempt more complex books, has a stab at a few words, then asks Emy to read. He can't remember sounds he was taught a few weeks ago though he could sound out all the letters at age two and also blend.

To me it sounds as if he hasn't quite grasped that the letters and the sounds they make can be figured out, maybe his working memory needs development, maybe he feels some pressure in the area of reading that he can't handle, or maybe he is genuinely more curious about plot than he is patient and his decoding is frustrating him because it slows him down.

Emy, is he able to segment words? (Break down words into their component sounds)

emy72 · 10/03/2011 07:01

Yes, he does segment. The problem I think is lack of practice.

As Mrz said, as he could read simple books before he started school, we focused on his weakness, ie fine motor skills as they were behind (he could not do up a button, draw, hold a pencil properly).

I came on here and Mrz (I will never thank you enough) gave us loads of strategies to help him and so every day we practised these and also encouraged him to write - so that was our focus really and the reading took second place. He can now write really well and I'd say his writing has surpassed his reading! He can write things like "Look at this fish" etc....

We didn't want to put too much pressure on him so with his reading we just read him a story at night, let him read a page or a line if he wasn't too tired etc, but if the school had sent a book home (they knew he could read simple books at the start), it would have encouraged us and him to build up on his reading skills.

I know there is no rush and he'll catch up as he is able, but I am just disappointed that there is nothing happening....as there are issues with my DD1 in Y1, I am wondering whether the school is not that proactive really - esp when you compared it with Mrz school for example.

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mrz · 10/03/2011 07:06

You might want to look at www.oxfordowl.co.uk/FindBook as there are lots of free e books to read.

emy72 · 10/03/2011 07:25

that's absolutely brilliant, thanks mrz

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mathanxiety · 10/03/2011 17:15

Article on working memory here. It's a bit hypey and breathless, sorry.

To gauge whether working memory may be a problem, there is a test that can be administered but you could try to discern this for yourself through a few observations:
How does he do at tasks with multiple steps that he sets himself can he plan and execute something in play, like making furniture using clay, where legs of chairs, seats, backs might be formed separately and then constructed does he get distracted and make animals instead for instance, or does he leave off when he has made one chair instead of making a chair and table?
Can he accomplish a task that you give him when there are multiple steps involved -- like putting his crayons in the box and then placing the box back on the shelf and then bringing his picture to the kitchen table?
When you recite a familiar rhyme to him can he fill in the last word or another missing word if you leave it out?
When you recite instead of sing a song he knows, can he fill in a word that you leave out?
Can he repeat a sequence to you -- like '1,2,5..' or 'cat, bird, ball, string', or 'cat, happy, ball, string'?
Can he arrange beads or blocks in a sequence, copying a sequence you have arranged or does he find it hard to repeat it exactly? Long sequence? Short sequence?
Can he sort objects according to instructions -- like blocks of different colours and shapes into different marked or unmarked containers?
Can he accomplish this if there are for instance two separate classes of red shapes (cubes and rectangular pieces) and others that are uniform in their shape/colour correspondence, again into marked and unmarked containers?
If you play 'freeze', and hold above your head a picture of a stick figure, and instruct him to freeze in the posture of the stick figure when the music stops, can he follow this instruction when the music stops or does he freeze when the picture is held aloft?

emy72 · 10/03/2011 18:41

Not sure about any of those but will try some of them out.....would playing the piano be one? Not sure if is relevant but he can read music and play a tune reading the music, is that a similar thing?

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mrz · 10/03/2011 19:02

Teachers tend to refer to it as auditory memory rather than working memory but there is nothing in any of your posts that this is an issue for your son emy

The type of things we do in school are -

  1. Repeat and use information ? pupils could be asked to repeat a sequence of two or three colours and then thread beads or arrange cubes using that sequence. The pupils could also complete card number sequences in the same way.
  2. Reciting ? action rhymes, songs and jingles. Use the actions to aid the recall of key learning points.
  3. Memory and sequencing songs ? songs like Old Macdonald, Ten Green Bottles, One Man went to Mow.
  4. Story recall 1 ? retell the main events of a story, using puppets and background scenery as cues.
  5. Story recall 2 ? draw the main events in well-known, patterned stories (eg. Little Red Hen, The Gingerbread Man).
  6. I went to market and I bought... ? using real shopping items or pictures. Pupils have to recall the sequence of items bought.
  7. Recall simple sequences ? of personal experiences and events and share with the group or class.
  8. Recall verbal messages 1 ? containing one or two elements and requiring a yes or no reply.
  9. Recall verbal messages 2 ? containing one or two elements and requiring a simple sentence reply.
  10. Instructions ? recall and repeat task instructions containing one, then two, then three elements.
  11. Drawing 1 ? story sequences from memory.
  12. Drawing 2 ? the sequence of a simple activity.
  13. Explain ? the sequence of a simple activity.
  14. Recall ? days and evenets of the week.
  15. Alphabet sequences ? dot to dot, games and puzzles.
  16. Alphabet name game ? recall the sequence of the alphabet using names.
  17. Alphabet word game ? recall the sequence of the alphabet whe using simple word banks.
  18. Draw a time sequence ? flow chart of the main events in the story.
  19. Organise sentences ? in the correct sequence, relating to a school event, using ords and phrases that signal time as cues (eg. after that, next).
  20. Mind-maps ? show the pupils how to use mind-maps to aid recall of key information.
JemimaMop · 10/03/2011 19:05

DD has been in Reception since last Easter. She has never had a reading book home, they don't send them home until Year 1.

It doesn't stop her reading though.

LiegeAndLief · 10/03/2011 20:29

Ds has also been in reception since September and has not had a book home. I am not really worried about it as they have been working on letters and sounds (eg oi, oo, ee, ai etc) and are starting to blend them. The teacher put great emphasis on the learning through play aspect of reception at the beginning of the year and basically told us that they were going to go very slowly, which I am happy with.

Ds has quite a few friends at other primaries in the area and I think they have all had books home, so I guess it depends on the school.

At the risk of hijacking the thread, I'd be really grateful if you could tell me what you did to help your ds's writing. My ds also has poor fine motor skills, still can't do up a button, has never wanted to draw and hates writing at school because he's "no good at it". I have tried to practice at home but it's tricky when he really doesn't want to and is tired after school - I'm also not really sure how to go about it.

mathanxiety · 10/03/2011 23:00

There's audiospatial and visuospatial working memory. The two systems operate in tandem.

A few ideas from this site for writing skills.

'Handwriting readiness can be developed by activities to improve children's fine motor control and isolated finger movements, such as;

  1. Rolling 1/4 - 1/8 inch balls of clay or therapy-putty between the tip of the thumb and tips of the index and middle fingers.
  2. Picking up small objects with tweezers
  3. Pinching and sealing a zip lock bag using the thumb opposing each finger while maintaining an open web space.
  4. Twisting open a small tube of toothpaste with the thumb, index and middle fingers while holding the tube with the ulnar digits.
  5. Moving a key from the palm to the fingertips of one hand.

To promote prewriting skills in children the following activities may be tried;

  1. Drawing lines and copying shapes using shaving cream, sand trays or finger paints.
  2. Drawing lines and shapes to complete a picture story on chalk boards.
  3. Drawing pictures of people, houses, trees, cars or animals with visual and verbal cues from the practitioner.
  4. Completing simple dot-to-dot pictures and mazes.

Activities to enhance right-left discrimination include:

  1. Playing/maneuvering through obstacles and focusing on the concept of twining right or left
  2. Connecting dots at the chalkboard with left to right strokes.'

Writing on an easel-type blackboard with chalk, and using a sandbox or sand table for writing can help greatly as there is a certain amount of resistance provided by the sand and the blackboard/chalk. Any kind of 'scribbling' or drawing is fine, although following a pattern or instruction of some sort will help too as skills and confidence advance.
Doing whatever pleases a child will help make writing and doodling enjoyable and stress-free though.
An erasable slate makes writing and drawing fun too.
Playing with clay helps develop fine motor skills and muscle co-ordination.

mathanxiety · 10/03/2011 23:05

Aaagh, lost this bit -- 'maze' games with a blackboard can include joining items like dots or drawing a continuous line and looping all obstacles as you go, drawing lines that are as straight as possible between the dots or having the child make sure all lines are curvy, making dashes instead of continuous lines, or zig zags... anything you can think of that enhances control of the chalk and purposeful application of the chalk to the board. But allowing free doodling can be very productive.

mrz · 11/03/2011 16:57

I already gave emy quite an extensive list of ideas for handwriting which should be easily found on the forum

for visual memory

Activities to develop visual memory skills:

  1. Recall object features ? let the pupils look at an object and talk about its features. Then take the object away and ask them to recall some of its features.
  2. Recall picture details ? let the pupils look at a picture and talk about the details. Then take the picture away and ask them to recall some of the details.
  3. Complete the shape ? show the pupils a shape and then give them an incomplete drawing of the same shape. Ask the pupils to complete the shape from memory.
  4. Complete the picture ? show the pupils a simple picture and then give them an incomplete drawing of the same picture. Ask them to complete the picture from memory.
  5. What's missing? ? show the pupils two similar pictures and ask them identify what is missing from one of the pictures.
  6. Kim's game ? place some everyday objects on a table. Show them to the pupils for about a minute, then cover them and see how many each can recall. This can also be played by taking one object away and asking the pupils to identify the object that is missing.
  7. Pelmanism ? shapes, objects, animals, etc.
  8. Cause and effect ? pictorial visual memory sequence.
  9. Recall and sequence 1 ? a series of three to four coloured shapes.
  10. Recall and sequence 2 ? a series of three to four pictures (eg. everyday situations, life sequences).
  11. Recall and sequence 3 ? a series of four pictures (telling a story).
  12. What happens next? ? complete pictorial action sequences related to everyday situations.
  13. Recall and sequence 4 ? a series of three to four words in a sentence.
  14. Recall and sequence 5 ? the alphabet, using magnetic letters.
  15. Recall and sequence 6 ? the days of the week using magnetic words.
  16. Recall and sequence 7 ? magnetic numbers.
  17. Word bingo ? simple high frequency words.
  18. Visual memory spelling games ? using the look, cover, remember, write, check strategy with simple high frequency words.
LiegeAndLief · 13/03/2011 09:25

Thanks very much for the info, very helpful, will search for the other thread.

mrz · 13/03/2011 09:28

Fine Motor Skills
Things to remember:

Upright working surfaces promote fine motor skills. Examples of these are: vertical chalkboards; easels for painting; flannel boards; lite bright; magnet boards (or fridge); windows and mirrors; white boards, etc. Children can also make sticker pictures; do rubber ink-stamping; use reuseable stickers to make pictures; complete puzzles with thick knobs; use magna-doodle and etch-a-sketch as well. The benefits for these include: having the child's wrist positioned to develop good thumb movements; they help develop good fine motor muscles; the child is using the arm and shoulder muscles.
Fine Motor Activities
Moulding and rolling play dough into balls - using the palms of the hands facing each other and with fingers curled slightly towards the palm.
Rolling play dough into tiny balls (peas) using only the finger tips.
Using pegs or toothpicks to make designs in play dough.
Cutting play dough with a plastic knife or with a pizza wheel by holding the implement in a diagonal volar grasp.
Tearing newspaper into strips and then crumpling them into balls. Use to stuff scarecrow or other art creation.
Scrunching up 1 sheet of newspaper in one hand. This is a super strength builder.
Using a plant sprayer to spray plants, (indoors, outdoors) to spray snow (mix food colouring with water so that the snow can be painted), or melt "monsters". (Draw monster pictures with markers and the colours will run when sprayed.)
Picking up objects using large tweezers such as those found in the "Bedbugs" game. This can be adapted by picking up Cheerios, small cubes, small marshmallows, pennies, etc., in counting games.
Shaking dice by cupping the hands together, forming an empty air space between the palms.
Using small-sized screwdrivers like those found in an erector set.
Lacing and sewing activities such as stringing beads, Cheerios, macaroni, etc.
Using eye droppers to "pick up" coloured water for colour mixing or to make artistic designs on paper.
Rolling small balls out of tissue paper, then gluing the balls onto construction paper to form pictures or designs.
Turning over cards, coins, checkers, or buttons, without bringing them to the edge of the table.
Making pictures using stickers or self-sticking paper reinforcements.
Playing games with the "puppet fingers" -the thumb, index, and middle fingers. At circle time have each child's puppet fingers tell about what happened over the weekend, or use them in songs and finger plays.

Place a variety of forms (eg. blocks, felt, paper, string, yarn, cereal, cotton) on outlines
Match shapes, colour, or pictures to a page and paste them within the outlines

Self-Care Skills
Buttoning
Lacing
Tying
Fastening Snaps
Zipping
Carrying
Using a screwdriver
Locking and unlocking a door
Winding a clock
Opening and closing jars
Rolling out dough or other simple cooking activities
Washing plastic dishes
Sweeping the floor
Dressing
Scissor Activities
When scissors are held correctly, and when they fit a child's hand well, cutting activities will exercise the very same muscles which are needed to manipulate a pencil in a mature tripod grasp. The correct scissor position is with the thumb and middle finger in the handles of the scissors, the index finger on the outside of the handle to stabilize, with fingers four and five curled into the palm.
Cutting junk mail, particularly the kind of paper used in magazine subscription cards.
Making fringe on the edge of a piece of construction paper.
Cutting play dough or clay with scissors.
Cutting straws or shredded paper.
Cutting
Use a thick black line to guide cutting the following:
A fringe from a piece of paper
Cut off corners of a piece of paper
Cut along curved lines
Cut lines with a variety of angles
Cut figures with curves and angles

Sensory Activities
The following activities ought to be done frequently to increase postural muscle strength and endurance. These activities also strengthen the child's awareness of his/her hands.
Wheelbarrow walking, crab walking
Clapping games (loud/quiet, on knees together, etc.)
Catching (clapping) bubbles between hands
Pulling off pieces of thera-putty with individual fingers and thumb
Drawing in a tactile medium such as wet sand, salt, rice, or "goop". Make "goop" by adding water to cornstarch until you have a mixture similar in consistency to toothpaste. The "drag" of this mixture provides feedback to the muscle and joint receptors, thus facilitating visual motor control.
Picking out small objects like pegs, beads, coins, etc., from a tray of salt, sand, rice, or putty. Try it with eyes closed too. This helps develop sensory awareness in the hands.

Midline Crossing
Establishment of hand dominance is still developing at this point. The following activities will facilitate midline crossing:
Encourage reaching across the body for materials with each hand. It may be necessary to engage the other hand in an activity to prevent switching hands at midline.
Refrain specifically from discouraging a child from using the left hand for any activity. Allow for the natural development of hand dominance by presenting activities at midline, and allowing the child to choose freely.
Start making the child aware of the left and right sides of his body through spontaneous comments like, "kick the ball with your right leg." Play imitation posture games like "Simon Says" with across the body movements.
When painting at easel, encourage the child to paint a continuous line across the entire paper- also from diagonal to diagonal.

Activities To Develop Handwriting Skills
There are significant prerequisites for printing skills that begin in infancy and continue to emerge through the preschool years. The following activities support and promote fine motor and visual motor development:
Body Stability
The joints of the body need to be stable before the hands can be free to focus on specific skilled fine motor tasks.
Wheelbarrow walking, crab walking, and wall push-ups.
Toys: Orbiter, silly putty, and monkey bars on the playground.

Fine Motor Skills
When a certain amount of body stability has developed, the hands and fingers begin to work on movements of dexterity and isolation as well as different kinds of grasps. Children will develop fine motor skills best when they work on a VERTICAL or near vertical surface as much as possible. In particular, the wrist must be in extension. (Bent back in the direction of the hand)
Attach a large piece of drawing paper to the wall. Have the child use a large marker and try the following exercises to develop visual motor skills:Make an outline of a one at a time. Have the child trace over your line from left to right, or from top to bottom. Trace each figure at least 10 times . Then have the child draw the figure next to your model several times.
Play connect the dots. Again make sure the child's strokes connect dots fromleft to right, and from top to bottom.
Trace around stencils - the non-dominant hand should hold the stencil flat and stable against the paper, while the dominant hand pushes the pencil firmly against the edge of the stencil. The stencil must be held firmly.
Attach a large piece of felt to the wall, or use a felt board. The child can use felt shapes to make pictures. Magnetic boards can be used the same way.
Have the child work on a chalkboard, using chalk instead of a marker. Do the same kinds of tracing and modeling activities as suggested above.
Paint at an easel. Some of the modeling activities as suggested above can be done at the easel.
Magna Doodle- turn it upside down so that the erasing lever is on the . Experiment making vertical, horizontal, and parallel lines.

Ocular Motor Control
This refers to the ability of the eyes to work together to follow and hold an object in the line of vision as needed.
Use a flashlight against the ceiling. Have the child lie on his/her back or tummy and visually follow the moving light from left to right, to bottom, and diagonally.
Find hidden pictures in books. (There are special books for this.)
Maze activities.

Eye-hand Coordination
This involves accuracy in placement, direction, and spatial awareness.
Throw bean bags/kooshi balls into a hula hoop placed flat on the floor. Gradually increase the distance.
Play throw and catch with a ball . Start with a large ball and work toward a smaller ball. (Kooshi balls are easier to catch than a tennis ball.)
Practice hitting bowling pins with a ball. (You can purchase these games or make your own with pop bottles and a small ball.)
Play "Hit the Balloon" with a medium-sized balloon.

not sure if everything is there but it should give a good start

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