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What things should a September born child be able to do when they start school?

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loonyrationalist · 11/02/2011 11:26

DD1's birthday is very early in September & will start school aged 5.

I'm not after academic ideas here - I'm answering her questions & following her lead on this.

I was thinking more of practical things :)

She can dress & undress herself - apart from taking off her tshirt & we are working on this. I also plan to do some practise with her school uniform once we have it.

She can put her own coat on & fasten it.

She can recognise her own name.

There must be other things that it would be useful for her to be able to do? (I'm thinking in terms of the teacher having to help the younger children in her year with stuff & trying to make the teacher's life easier in this respect)

Plus is there anything I can do with her that won't impact on school work - she is really interested in letters & numbers - I'm answering her questions but not pushing the learning as I don't want her to be bored when they are covering this at school.

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skiphopskidaddle · 11/02/2011 12:38

wipe own bottom. crucial.

ellangirl · 11/02/2011 13:38

Put on her shoes! The teacher will love you :o

I'd say do what you want with her, if she's interested. Be careful about letters and sounds, and writing, as the teacher/school might have different ideas about how it should be done depending on what scheme they use.

Things to do now-lots of practical things- construction, imaginative play, cooking etc. Someone on here has a lovely blog of imaginative things to do. Her children are younger but I bet your daughter would love to do some of these things- I know I would! here

ragged · 11/02/2011 13:53

Self Toilet, do own shoes, follow directions, wait her turn, get along with other people.

Just get her to love books, and notice numbers in everyday life, so that learning to read and add seems relevant to her own life.

Lizcat · 11/02/2011 14:12

Sit quietly on the carpet and know to put up hand to answer question. Play nicely with other children.

loonyrationalist · 11/02/2011 15:56

Some great ideas here, thank-you.

DD1 is an arts & crafts demon - if I had the inclination to do a blog she could give me 5 or 6 daily posts - they aren't quite as pristine as that one though ellangirl Grin
We read lots of books - she is constantly asking me about words letters & numbers. I have educated myself a little on the phonics thay are using in school so at least I am not teaching her wrong. Frankly I feel she will be reading a little before she gets to school, today over lunch she worked out what 4 of the letters of empty are (she didn't get the y)

Some great suggestions from all of you - just what I was looking for - thank-you

Good point on wiping own bottom just the sort of idea I was looking for- she can do it but very often doesn't take the time to do it well - I will get strict on doing this well herself.

Shoes she can do & I'll make sure she can do the school shoes once we have them.

She has recently become great at following directions - I broke my ankle in december & have another 4 weeks before I can bear any weight on it. All of a sudden her being able to follow instructions became much more important to her (ie - your doll is updtairs under your bed)

Sitting still - she's ok - she does get to practise this at pre-school & will sit still with me & concentrate on something - whilst interested - once her interest is lost there is no hope though. They encourage them to put their hands up in pre-school so she does get practise at this too.

She can & will wait her turn quite well.

She will play nicely & has a well developed understanding of sharing (thanks to a 2 year old sister ;) )

Thanks again for your ideas - any more also most welcome

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ellangirl · 11/02/2011 16:18

If she can already do all those things, she will be absolutely fine in reception, you sound like you have a great attitude to it all.
I expect to see that blog up and running in no time so that you can give inspiration to the rest of us :o

Horton · 11/02/2011 20:58

Any tips for teaching a child to wipe her bottom properly? I also have a September born four year old who will go to school when she is nearly five and all attempts at poo-wiping have been frankly revolting (obv I have not told her this, just pointed out how she could do a little better next time). Plus, she is really reluctant to even try. I know we have another six months or so, but I would really appreciate some tips!

She can dress and undress herself (can't manage tights yet but can do everything else), wipe after a wee, put on shoes and take them off (and get them on the right feet), follow instructions, wait for a turn, share nicely, get along with most adults and children, negotiate a turn on something with another child of a similar age, sit still and listen, recognise all letters and numbers and recognise quite a few words. She can even make a vague stab at spelling and sounding out words (VERY phonetic). The bottom-wiping is really eluding us, though. I have tried!

onimolap · 11/02/2011 21:15

All I can think off for bottom wiping is to turn over the main responsibility to her, but say you'll just "finish off" (to avoid the worst consequences). It can only really come with practice.

Loony: I'd add blowing own nose and throwing the tissue in the bin. And for advanced training, when getting changed, putting all clothes into a small tidy pile (or back in gym bag).

Horton · 11/02/2011 21:21

putting all clothes into a small tidy pile

Haha, yes, still working on that here.

Thanks, onimolap. I will try and make her do it more often. She's just so worried about it (off her own bat - she hates mess, honestly haven't said anything to make her feel bad) that she is really reluctant to even try. Maybe we need some kind of reward for trying.

onimolap · 11/02/2011 21:42

I wasn't thinking exactly of mess, more keeping her stuff together so she can find it when she changes back, as school uniform looks alarmingly similar if it all gets strewn.

Don't worry her about this!

simpson · 11/02/2011 21:45

what type of lunch will she be having??

If school dinners she may need to carry a tray but if packed lunch I would practice opening yogurts, crisps, drink etc with her...

IAPJJLPJ · 11/02/2011 21:47

Reception help list:

The summer before my August born boy went to school we started practising on preparation ? here is my list of helpful hints!

Velcro shoes ? unless they can do laces up with no help and very quickly

Make sure you contact your school to find out how to obtain the uniform. Sometimes it has to be ordered via the school and when they close at the end of July its means you won?t have a uniform for September!!

Find out which days P.E is on and on those days don?t button up the polo shirt ? with a jumper on over the top it won?t be noticed anyway!

Personal care ? ensure can wash hands, sort clothing out. My son couldn?t wipe his own bottom and so I ensured he got into a ?routine? of doing one before bed so I knew he wouldn?t run into difficulties at school.

Put half a smiley face in each shoe so that when they are placed together the correct way round they form one big happy face ? helps to get the shoes on the correct feet.

Practice with a lunchbox and different wrappings. I realised that I just hand my son a plate of food (as does nursery) and so he never had to undo anything!. He found a zipped lunch box easier than a velcro one. He found cling film to fidderly and so I get cheap food bags and put his sandwiches in them and wrap them over. He then puts all his left over?s in the bag so the lunch box comes back in a decent state!

Put a slit in the top of packets so they tear open easily or open them and fold them over and seal with a sticker (children can ALWAYS get a sticker off things!).

Fromage frais makes less mess than runny yogurt. Don?t forget to pack a spoon.

Sport top on bottles easier than screw tops or cartons (it all comes home in the lunch box so think of less spillage)

Label everything unless you don?t want it back. I got some really good stickers printed with just our surname on so all the family could use them for different things. They are dishwasher proof too.

Small icepack for the summer.

Some foods are not allowed in lunches so check with the school.

Before my (very young and clumsy)son had school dinners I brought a tray plate (from boots) that the food gets put directly on as that is what they use in school so he could practice carrying it to the table without dropping it. (was terrified he would drop it at school and everyone would laugh).

If they are a very small or slow eater don?t give them too much otherwise they will spend their whole lunch break eating and not outside playing. Some schools insist they eat everything. Just take a snack for on the way home if they are hungry.

Elasticated skirts and trousers to make it easier to get on/off.

If there is a 'school' coat, and it's not compulsory DON'T BUY ONE. If 30 children all have an identical coat it's a nightmare to sort them out.

Show your child how to hang their coat on a peg, using the loop. Otherwise the coat will live on a muddy cloakroom floor.

Tie something distinctive on your child's bookbag and PE bag, so they can recognise their own among many identical ones - a keyring or something is ideal

Putting his clothes back on when they are inside out and back-to-front (ie as they'll be after he's taken them off after PE). My DS could dress himself so it never occurred to me that his clothes were always presented in a nice "sanitised" manner

Some children found the sheer noise and busy environment very stressful when they first start school and I wasn't prepared for that with my son who found lunchtimes in the hall with a hundred or so other children all chattering, clanking cutlery, scraping chairs and clinking plates really intimidating and scary.

Not much you can do (unless you have a massive home and a hundred children to invite round) but by going to busy places with him beforehand and telling him that school might get noisy sometimes but it's nothing to be worried about he will at least be able to remember your words when faced with increased hustle and bustle.

My son was sometimes a bit nervous about going in and ?being alone? all day without me, so I filled his pocket with ?kisses? and told him to reach in for one if he felt a bit sad. At nearly 7yrs he still asks for them if going somewhere new (eg Beavers for the first time)

Teach your child to stuff their hat/scarf/gloves into the sleeve of their coat when they hang their coat up - stops them from getting lost and reminds dc to put them back on when they go out to play as they automatically find them when they put their coat back on!

A top tip I was given was that school shirts come in packs of three so you buy 2 packs, that gives you 6 shirts, one for every day of the week, plus 1 you put aside for the school christmas show, prize giving or whatever.

If you are a working parent, as soon as you find out your allocated school you MUST sort childcare. Childminders and after school clubs get booked up very quickly. The school office may have a list of childcare establishments.
I sewed back the bottom bit of the material away from the zip on my DS's coat when he started Reception (to make it easier to do up).

If they wear proper shirts (as opposed to polo shirts), don't bother with long sleeved ones - the cuffs will get so grubby you'll only get one day's wear out of them. Short sleeves are better!

School uniform does go missing ? be it misplaced or stolen. If you don?t need to get logo?d uniform then don?t as this is what tends to go easily. Also make your uniform more distinctive so when the children leave school you will be able to spot a piece of your Childs clothing on another child. Eg put a small key ring on the zipper of the school coat/jacket. Will make it easier to pull up as well. Write in permanent ink inside the collar or sleeve ? any where it can be easily seen and can not be cut out (like labels). Sew a small colour co-ordinated flower/star/circle (whatever is appropriate) on the collar ? again is small but distinctive.

simpson · 11/02/2011 21:51

One other thing I forgot to do when my DS (now yr1) started reception was to properly show him his new coat Blush

He got very upset at the end of his first day at school as he could not remember what it looked like Sad so could not find it and had not been at school long enough to remember his peg...

Panzee · 11/02/2011 21:55

If you want to teach her something you could do colours and shapes if she doesn't know them already?

ilove · 11/02/2011 21:58

Wipe bottom
Blow her nose

Panzee · 11/02/2011 22:01

Cut tough meat and hard potatoes with a blunt knife (if having school dinners!)

Clary · 12/02/2011 16:20

Speaking as someone with a fair bit of experience of FS2 classes, yy to changing for PE - can she do it quickly? Try doing races to encourage her.

Wipe bottom and wash hands.

Put on shoes/gloves/hat.

Deal with lunchbox and contents (yogurt etc) if appropriate. Use knife and fork if having school lunch.

Share toys with other children.

Stand in line, sit still on carpet for a few minutes. Confidence to speak up in front of others is an asset too (ie when register is taken).

FreudianSlippery · 12/02/2011 16:48

Great thread! DD is a summer born so am quietly nervous about her starting school so young, but she's coping at nursery well.

I've deliberately encouraged independence - she knows where to put her backpack, bookbag and coat, and how to recognise her name tag and hang it up. It's always tempting to do it myself in a rush but I think/hope she will be more confident when she has to do it in big school (when parents aren't allowed in to help)

FreudianSlippery · 12/02/2011 16:51

Anyway lots of great advice on this thread. DD is a 'no, I want to do it ALL BY MYSELF' girl mostly so there's a few things to work on and I know she will get excited about it.

Putting clothes in a neat pile for PE is something I'd not even considered! I'm afraid she gets her tendency to chuck clothes wherever she wants from me Blush

roadtrain · 12/02/2011 16:56

Not sure if it's been said, but teach child to look at name in clothes before putting on. DS is in reception and has come home wearing/bringing many items of clothing belonging to others - clothes, bags, socks, shoes Shock!

To be fair to my DS, the main time he brought home a huge load of someone else's stuff, the teacher had said that it was a race to get the clothes into their bags. So DS just scooped everything up!

loonyrationalist · 12/02/2011 20:56

Great ideas here thank-you - I have plenty to work on - especially the neat piles ;)

Our preschool have a lunch half hour where they sit & eat their packed lunches with the primary school children in the hall so the pre-school have done the hard work in making her independent on this - it really is a fantastic idea eases them into the whole lunch thing gently with help & support from the pre-school staff. So I'll stick with packed lunches at first at least as I know that is familiar & easy.

Thank-you to everyone who has shared their ideas it has been really helpful :)

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DreamTeamGirl · 12/02/2011 22:20

Regarding looking at the name before putting them on.
Some one on here posted about the able labels stamps for clothes, and I stamped the bottom front of DS' polo shirts so when wearin git he could look down and fold the bottom out and see if he had the right one on. Has worked very well for us

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