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Alternative state schools?

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Buttercup2926 · 03/02/2011 12:40

Hi all,

We will be moving to the UK this summer and I am desperately looking for a primary school and nursery for our 3 children who will be 9, 5, and 3 when we move. We need to be within an hour or so commute from the city of London. We are looking for a state school or a private school with low fees.

I would love to find a school that steers away from the rigidly assessment based style of education, ideally no uniform, first name basis with teachers, high level of parental involvement. Open to any suggestions (except Steiner!)

I'm unfamiliar with the Uk system so don't know if there are any state schools similar to what we are looking for. I have found private schools that sound great, particularly some of the Montessori primaries, but the fees are out of our reach. Any advice is welcomed!

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misskeith · 03/02/2011 13:34

I don't think there is such a thing. You might find first names and no uniform, but in the state system assessment etc is determined by national policy. You will be looking for a Reception or Year 1 place for the 5 year old - in many places state schools are oversubscribed so having a choice is going to be tricky unless you can wait around for a place to come up.

evolucy7 · 03/02/2011 14:25

My 2 daughters attend a very good private school where the fees are lower than many private schools, myself and my sister also attended as children.

Dudley House School, Grantham, Lincolnshire. Grantham is on the main train line to King's Cross, I believe that it is around an hour to King's Cross. I know many people who choose to live in Grantham and commute to London everyday.

Dudley House School is affiliated to the Seventh Day Adventist Church, but none of my family are Adventists or religious in any way, please don't let that put you off, I know some people have a view that there may be something odd, but I can assure you that is not the case, the majority of pupils are not Adventists, and anyway they appear to be very nice caring people. The school does have a uniform and teachers are not called by first names, but there is something very unique about the school. Many parents now were pupils themselves. Another benefit of Grantham for schools is that there are good grammar schools in Grantham, and Dudley House has an excellent record at 11+.

This is something I recently wrote about the school;

As an ex Dudley House pupil myself, when the time came to choose a school for my two children I was very pleased to find that the same unique and exceptional atmosphere existed as it had done 30 years ago. I believe that Dudley House School is an incredible environment for the very best in education and development for all children. The small class sizes mean that children are stretched academically at their level. Teaching is encouraging and challenging, but also sensitive resulting in bright, happy, caring and confident pupils. My eldest daughter felt completely at home right from the start, she has progressed exceptionally well academically and personally, and my youngest has been desperate to start and finally will in September. The school is sponsored by the Seventh -day Adventist Church, who are Christians, but my family are not Adventists as many others there are not, but actually it is probably the Adventist affiliation that has served to create the lovely calm environment that exists within the school, without there really being anything different to the religious education in the school from most other primary schools. An interesting fact that I only recently found out is that over 100 years ago an Adventist, John Kellogg and his brother were responsible for inventing corn flakes! And with September 2010 annual fees working out at £330 per month spread throughout the year, I see Dudley House as fantastic education for my children, highly recommended.

Although this may not be the distance, area or type of school that you are looking for I thought that I'd share my thoughts. Smile

zazizoma · 03/02/2011 14:46

You may find what your looking for in any new "free schools" or "academies" that are in the area . . . these are the terms for state schools freed of the national curriculum and test emphasis. I'd also contact the Montessori schools you found interesting to inquire if they are pursuing academy or free school status, which will resolve the fees issue. Good Luck!

Saracen · 03/02/2011 15:28

Home education ticks all of those boxes in spades, and is increasingly popular here. There are quite a lot of local groups, depending on where you live. The legislation gives parents great freedom in deciding how to educate their children.

If that appeals to you, you can get more info on the Home Ed board here: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/home_ed

mary21 · 03/02/2011 16:31

What about Educare small school in Kingston and look on the Human scale education website

IndigoBell · 03/02/2011 16:54

Quaker Schools

Human Scale Education

Hollypark Montessori

Flowergarden1 · 03/02/2011 19:34

Have you looked at Sibford near Banbury? Lovely non-competitive ethos, quite alternative.

misskeith · 03/02/2011 19:43

All private though and the OP said she couldn't afford anything other than low fees.

Buttercup2926 · 03/02/2011 23:45

Thanks everyone, lots of info there!

Unfortunately seems as though my hours and hours of googling might have been correct, nothing available in the state system. Guess we'll keep searching for a state school that ticks at least some of the boxes. We're not religious either so that narrows our choices further.

We have schools in Ireland called Educate Together schools and I was really hoping there might be something similar in the UK but it appears not to be so.

If anyone has any further suggestions would be delighted to hear them.

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Changeisagoodthing · 03/02/2011 23:49

Gosh blast from the past

My brother went to dudly house-can't believe it's still going

He came home to say he had learnt a new song about space

Onward Christian soldiers marching astronauts.

evolucy7 · 03/02/2011 23:51

Is Grantham and Dudley House not the sort of thing you might be looking for? There are no religious requirements I can assure you!
If it's too far from London or something, or just not what you were thinking just say and I'll shut up, but seriously it is unique I believe and very very good. Grin

evolucy7 · 03/02/2011 23:52

Really..changeisagoodthing? How old is he I might have known him?
Why can't you believe that it is still going?

Changeisagoodthing · 03/02/2011 23:54

It was very formal in the early 1970s compared to the local state schools.

evolucy7 · 04/02/2011 00:01

I still don't understand why that might mean it was not still going Hmm
My sister would have started in 1974 and I would have started in 1977, I don't remember any great formality. In my experience it is actually a lovely calming friendly environment. What do you think was formal about it? I know several parents now who took their children to state education after the nursery at Dudley House and have since come back, saying that the state education just does not compare.

mary21 · 04/02/2011 17:01

What about William Tyndale in Islington or Darrell in Kew. Both state, no uniform. They will have national cuuriculum though

onimolap · 04/02/2011 17:13

You might like to have a look at Summer Hill School, though this would probably fail your parent involvement criteria.

You can normally only apply to state schools when you have a UK address (unless you are returning Uk forces to whom certain specific exemptions apply). Do you have any idea where you want to be?

VeggieReggie · 04/02/2011 17:19

It will be hard getting the 2 older ones into the same school because by the time you move, the admissions fo that year will have been done. But if you move to somewhere right on the doorstep, a place should come up quite quickly.

Examples of schools which fit 2 of your criteria:

no uniforms, first names

no uniform, first names, outstanding ofsted
With nearby housing:
hee

or this with potential to extend

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