Are your children’s vaccines up to date?

Set a reminder

Please or to access all these features

Primary education

Join our Primary Education forum to discuss starting school and helping your child get the most out of it.

School, it all just seems a bit too much of a commitment!

31 replies

Sonriente · 28/01/2011 11:26

I'm just wondering if I'm the only person who is finding having to take the children to school every day a bit much?
I couldn't wait for them to get to school age and now I'm finding that suddenly I'm not the one in control. You hand them over, they disappear in, pop out again at 3pm and mostly I have no idea what's gone on.
And they go every week day for the next 11 years.
I want a stakeholder meeting, a consultation, a project management plan....
I want to be the one running things again! Will I get used to it?

OP posts:
Are your children’s vaccines up to date?
southeastastra · 28/01/2011 11:27

be a govenor? you will get used to it though

chocecclair · 28/01/2011 11:28

of course you will get used to it!

darleneconnor · 28/01/2011 11:29

I think some schools have more of an open door policy than others.

TheCrackFox · 28/01/2011 11:33

It does get a bit of getting used to. I no longer seem to have power of veto over my Dcs.

LindyHemming · 28/01/2011 11:48

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Ripeberry · 28/01/2011 14:40

Yes, we are tied to the school timetable. Do you have a friend who could pick up on some days and then you on another.
Then you could both have 'time off' from the afternoon school run at least Smile

cory · 29/01/2011 00:09

Mine have got to the age where they can take themselves to school and let themselves in in the afternoon- so I can swan off if I need to. And I don't have to know what is going on every single moment of the day because they take responsibility. It's bliss, I tell you, bliss Grin

Saracen · 29/01/2011 13:55

I don't know whether you'll get used to it. Some people do, some don't. If you don't get used to school and you and your kids don't like it, you could consider home education.

They still grow up and get their independence and do things on their own. (I've hardly seen my eldest in the last three days.) But the process is gradual and happens as the child is ready, so it feels right. There isn't the sense that they grow up too quickly, because you get to be involved in their lives and see them growing up. And whenever the child feels the need to have some time off and reconnect with the rest of the family, it's easy enough to turn down an invitation to play, or skip football practice. Most things are optional.

It still seems almost surreal to me that schools can dictate to parents about when their children attend and whether they can go on holiday. And even what they wear and what they eat and when they go to the toilet! School is a service, so surely the users of the service should be able to decide how to use it? I guess I can see that an institution can't run without rules, and the institution would be a very different place if parents had more input. But it's a strange situation, no doubt about it.

medoitmama · 29/01/2011 17:29

Nothing really to add but I know exactly what you mean. DD1 is in reception and I feel positively outraged that they want her all day every day! Rediculous I know, but it certainly does take a bit of getting used to. At least there's the holidays!

Maybe have a few more babies to help take your mind off things?? Smile

strandednomore · 29/01/2011 20:06

Surely this is the point where we realise that we don't "own" our children.

Up until the day they start school (eg the day they legally have to be in the education system), we control them. Yes they might go to nursery or preschool, but if we don't like it we can take them out. We can take them on holiday when we want, we can pick them up and take them home half way through the day if we want.

Now, someone, or something else, is also controlling them. And I agree, it's bloody hard (dd1 is in reception too) but it's necessary to start the process of letting go.

Really, if you think about it, it's brilliant that so many other people are going to be playing a big, important part in their lives. That they are going to have to make friends on their own, without us deciding who they should and shouldn't play with. It's life. It's growing up.

kattyo · 29/01/2011 20:59

I'm completely with Saracen on this one. I feel the same way exactly. I have toyed with home education. My children are sociable and really enjoy being with other kids. But I have just put them in nursery for three short days a week (because I thought htey'd enjoy it) and it is far too much for them. They are exhausted. It is eating into our time together. They are so tired that we can't do all the trips we used to do - the free days are spent recovering. And they are meant to go five days a week from September????? And someone else is meant to tell me what is best for my children?
It's not helped by the fact that I really didn't enjoy school at all.

ZephirineDrouhin · 29/01/2011 21:04

I know how you feel, op, but I suppose we will all get used to it.

Actually it's the shocking deterioration in dd's grammar since she's been at school that's currently irking me the most...

PoppetUK · 29/01/2011 21:37

Get your CRB done through your school and offer to assist in the school.

I've done that as I now I have 2 in primary school. I really enjoy it. I love seeing what my children's day looks like, seeing what they get up to, even if I don't get to work directly with them they kind of know I'm around. It seems to soften it all and we have more to talk about at the end of our day because I get more of an idea what they have been doing. I don't think my kids would listen to me enough for me to to home educate!

Doodlez · 29/01/2011 21:41

ZephirineDrouhin wrote:- "Actually it's the shocking deterioration in dd's grammar since she's been at school that's currently irking me the most..."

Agree, agree, agree! My children's speech has gone to pot since starting school. Worst offenses are:-

"Woz yer?"
"Doesn't mat-ha"
"anythin' " - or any word which is supposed to end in 'inG'!!!!Angry

ZephirineDrouhin · 29/01/2011 22:43

Glad I'm not alone doodlez. "I done..." seems particularly hard to reverse.

ZephirineDrouhin · 29/01/2011 22:44

Although I do quite like that she now peppers her speech with "Oh my days"

Doodlez · 29/01/2011 22:47

"I done...." Ha - we had "I dided...." for a while and my DD is profoundly deaf in one ear, so she went through a phase of calling it her "deafed ear" Grin

"Should of...."
"Would of...."

How many times have I screamed "HAVE!!!! SHOULD HAVE!!!!" Do they listen? NO!

aviatrix · 29/01/2011 22:48

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Saracen · 30/01/2011 02:19

Strandednomore said
"Surely this is the point where we realise that we don't "own" our children...

Really, if you think about it, it's brilliant that so many other people are going to be playing a big, important part in their lives. That they are going to have to make friends on their own, without us deciding who they should and shouldn't play with. It's life. It's growing up."

I agree that it's good for children to have a variety of people involved in their lives. Letting go is essential, and that parents don't need to control children indefinitely. But why should control be handed from parents to an institution which does not know each child well and cannot always act in the best interests of each individual? Shouldn't we prepare children for adulthood by gradually handing over control to the children themselves, so it becomes self-control rather than institutional control?

If we let kids do things as they feel ready, they gain experience in taking responsibility for themselves. It's hard to see how they can gain that experience while spending most of their day under close supervision being told where to sit, when to talk, which books to read, and where to go until well into their teens.

Parents who baulk at handing their children into the care of school for six hours a day are not necessarily being controlling or possessive of their children. They just feel uncomfortable with the idea of school being controlling and possessive of their children.

Sonriente · 30/01/2011 08:47

Thanks all, I guess the question should be 'do I want to get used to it' .
Totally agree on the language and grammar changes, exhaustion and a sudden awareness of competition. I hate that she is constantly being assessed and that she feels others are better than her. Reading particularly- seriously I love reading but I don't see the urgency. And independance is great but i want to be able to say to her 'you're not alone you can depend on me'.
4 just feels un-naturally young to be out there. Although I do help in the classroom and it's a nice, happy place. Though I believe year 1 is different. Oh my, years of anxiety ahead.

I might feel different when they are older but I think for now I'll check out the home ed thread.

OP posts:
strandednomore · 30/01/2011 08:59

Saracen - I guess I am lucky with dd1's school as I think they are helping her to think for herself, take responsibility for her own actions etc. They don't just tell them what to do, they encourage them to think about it, to question what they are told etc.

I am also lucky in that she is a September born child so started when she was almost 5. I think a lot of the problems expressed on this thread related to the age of children and those who are summer born, in particular, are very young to start. We have just moved back from overseas where my dd's both attended a (private) Montessori school. They go up to reception on ability rather than age but all children in reception where 5 by the end of the first term. It seemed to make a big difference.

FreudianSlippery · 30/01/2011 09:13

I've toyed with the idea of homeschooling, although DD adores preschool so I doubt we will. The home ed board is great anyway :)

Saracen · 31/01/2011 06:54

"I guess I am lucky with dd1's school as I think they are helping her to think for herself, take responsibility for her own actions etc. They don't just tell them what to do, they encourage them to think about it, to question what they are told etc."

That's good. Kids do have a level of responsibility for themselves at school, and it's great if the teachers encourage them to think about the consequences of their behaviour and have the time to discuss situations.

However, choices are limited. They have to be, in an environment where attendance is compulsory, the curriculum is fixed, and large numbers of children are working closely together. At school if another kid is really annoying you while you're trying to read, you have choices such as hitting her, asking her to stop, and asking a teacher to make her stop.

At home if my eleven year old's sister is really annoying her, she has additional choices: change from reading to another activity involving the little one so she'll feel included and stop pestering, shut herself in another room alone to calm down, go to the library, persuade mum to keep the little one occupied, go outside to run around and let off steam, try to engage little sister in playing with dolls and then creep off to read some more. Because there's no requirement to stay in the same room and to stick with the reading, more choices are available. In her adult life she will occasionally have to cope in an environment where she has only a few real options, but most of the time there will be a very wide range of strategies to choose from.

That's what I mean when I say children have more opportunities to take responsibility for themselves when they aren't under the control of school, and that this helps them to grow up.

WimpleOfTheBallet · 31/01/2011 07:02

I haven't got used to it either....it winds me up SO much that I have to take DD every day.

I did look quite seriously into home education but DD does seem to like the whole school thing...I wish we could go part time!

GwendolineMaryLacey · 31/01/2011 07:18

I feel like this and dd is only 3 and in pre-school twice a week! I really resent it. I resent that our lovely snuggly Thursdays when we used to be at home doing housework and playing and cooking etc are now spent running round like a blue arsed fly. I send her because I think it'll be good for her and it's on the same site as her school but I hate it.