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Can a 5yr old get expelled?

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LikeIneedthis · 25/01/2011 15:41

I'm guessing if they are absolute monsters they can. DD is in trouble for hitting at school (not the first time) ? the mum in question has made a complaint (which is within her right), but the school has said that if it happens again, she'll be expelled. We have had a letter home in the past about her behaviour but thought we had cracked it (ha!). I'm not condoning her behaviour ? she know's she shouldn't hit and is full of remorse afterwards but I'm really worried as this is the last thing I need to deal with at the mo. We've never been called into the school ? is there a set process that this kind of thing goes through? Sad Any advice would be great. Thanks.

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BeerTricksPotter · 25/01/2011 15:45

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Wordsonascreen · 25/01/2011 15:46

A boy in ds's reception class was expelled.
Don't know the details as its a MN rule that you never ask questions/show any interest in classmates.

[just saying I've known it to happen]

TheVisitor · 25/01/2011 15:47

The word they should be using is exclusion, and they would do it for a set time, maybe only a day to start with.

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LikeIneedthis · 25/01/2011 15:53

thanks everyone. I did wonder why we haven't got anything official IYSWIM. We talk to DH and make an appointment to see HT and class teacher. She gets very frustrated and seems to lash out rather than be a bully if you get my drift.

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mummytime · 25/01/2011 16:05

You might also want to plug into the SEN section here for advice, and contact your local parent partnership (look up Parent Partnership on google and your local area). Keep a diary of interaction between the school and you, including especially dates and anything they say they will do.

They should be working with you to overcome your DDs issues.

rebl · 26/01/2011 09:39

My understanding is that they should be following set procedure for this. I don't think they can just jump straight to exclusion without having tried to sort the behaviour and had you in to talk to. But I might be wrong.

Bonkerz · 26/01/2011 09:42

teh simple answer is YES, my son was excluded over 12 times before he was 6 and eventually expelled from one primary and then sent to a pupil referral unit after the 2nd primary school was unable to manage him.

Through all this time he was actually being assessed for Autism and to get a statement so he wasnt a monster but was a young child who needed help and support and wasnt getting it!

reallytired · 26/01/2011 20:47

It is very difficult for a mainstream school to permamently exclude a child, especially a child who is as young as five.

The school should be contacting the local behaviour support team and getting in the educational pyschologist and maybe a referal to the community paediatrian to see what is wrong. The school needs to set up an IEP to put in extra support to help your little girl cope. Prehaps she needs to be assigned a TA at break or they need to see what her flash points are.

No chid is evil at the age of five.

admission · 26/01/2011 23:41

This week I have been told about a 5 year old girl who having not been allowed to do what she wanted, went on a banzai in the classroom. She was removed to a smaller room to calm down and proceded to trash this room. She eventually ran back into the classroom and started throwing chairs around at which point the rest of the class had to be escorted out of the room. Eventually the head teacher and another male teacher managed to get hold of her but only after she had thrown chairs at both of them and broken windows with thrown chairs.

Part of any head's decision making process has to be the safety of the other children and the teachers. In this case the child should simply not be in a mainstream school as she clearly has major anger management issues.

OP in your case your daughter is potentially in danger of being permanently excluded but without any kind of written warning that is unlikely to happen. I would be asking for a meeting with the class teacher and the SENCO and if there is no obvious way forward escalating the issue to the head teacher. Any exclusion either fixed term or permanent has to be done to certain procedures. As you have received no letter, it would appear that the school is not taking it any further this time. But it would be advisable to try and work out the problems with the school as eventually they will loose patience if it keeps happening

Newrumpus · 26/01/2011 23:47

No child is evil. Full stop.

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