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My ravenous child is only allowed fruit at snack time. I am furious.

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Avocadoes · 09/01/2011 08:36

My 4 year old DD started Reception class last week. She seems very happy but also very hungry. She is not a great breakfast eater, no matter how hard I try, so at home she used to get a mid morning plate of toast to boost her energy. At school her mid morning snack must be fruit and nothing else. Is that normal?

On her first day I sent her in with sliced apple and raisens. She ate them all, ate all her lunch, but still came home at 3.30pm starving. She then consumed two slices of toast and ate three large plates of spag bol at dinner time.

The next day I put dry cereal (Raisen Wheats) in her snack box to give her some carbs. She came home and told me the teacher had told her she wasn't allowed to eat it. She was very embarrassed about this.

When I dropped her off on the third day I asked the teacher what I could give her to fill her up mid morning. The teacher said it had to be fresh fruit or veg.

AIBU to think a growing child should be allowed a proper energy boost mid morning? I am not suggesting chocolate or crisps, but a health bar, or crackers, or dry cereal should surely be allowed.

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earwicga · 09/01/2011 09:09

'I bet you could get a doctor to write a note saying she needs complex carbs and not just simple sugars mid-morning.'

But she doesn't Hmm

CommanderDrool · 09/01/2011 09:10

I don't think DD's school can be bothered to police this healthy eating nonsense.

In fact she came out if her Eid party declaring she had eaten so many sweets she felt sick and didn't want her dinner Hmm I could hear her classmates saying similar things.

They also give them choc milk at break time. And then have the cheek yo send a 'healthy eating' leaflet home Hmm

whomovedmychocolate · 09/01/2011 09:13

School is about conformity to societal norms. Most people eat a decent breakfast and don't snack before lunch - actually a lot of people have started to that's why we are all getting so lardy.

Hunger is a good thing to learn. It's a biological function. Not a cause of suffering. I'm sure your child is not actually starving.

StewieGriffinsMom · 09/01/2011 09:13

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compo · 09/01/2011 09:18

It's a great habit to learn for the rest of her life: filling breakfast, fruit midmorning, then lunch. Am truly baffled why anyone wouldn't want there children to start the day in such a way.

seeker · 09/01/2011 09:19

Sorry, avocadoes - I was being outraged by others on this thread taking the opportunity to slag off schools io general and accuse us of using them of breaking our children;'s spirits ant turn them into clones. I wasn't actually aiming at you!

But as an experienced school parent and a governor I do have to say that schools sadly have to have rules like this, or the Head will spend most of his or her time arguing with parents who want to send their kids in with bags of Haribo and will say that they are healthy because they are strawberry shaped. Or that Jaffa cakes count as one of their 5 a day.

justaboutmaintainingorder · 09/01/2011 09:20

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cory · 09/01/2011 09:21

The idea that something dreadful will happen if you do not eat as soon as you start feeling hungry is a recent one. I have seen it develop during my years as a teacher: students used to go from breakfast to lunchtime without really thinking about it: now they can't sit through a 45 minute lecture without sustenance.

I'd go for that banana.

cluttermountain · 09/01/2011 09:21

My DS not a big breakfast eater, so as well as slice of toast and grapes he has a good size beaker of milk - lightly flavoured. He is 5. I would agree banana good as snack. However at DS school they provide fruit and bananas not always there. DS turns nose up at raw carrots[!] which happen sometimes..is fussy though..

earwicga · 09/01/2011 09:21

You were outraged seeker? You obviously don't have much on your mind at the moment Grin

violetbouncer · 09/01/2011 09:23

Ok, what about a yogurt smoothie for breakfast, or a milkshake? I wouldn't be furious in your shoes.

SunshineOnARainyDay · 09/01/2011 09:24

Thank goodness for the DC's school - at 10am they have the option of a slice of toast/teacake as well as a piece of fruit. They take 10p if they want the toast option, the fruit/veg is free.

Lamorna · 09/01/2011 09:26

I am sure that she will adjust, if she is sensible she will eat a big breakfast.
The healthy way to eat is 'breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince and dinner like a pauper.' Therefore breakfast is the most important meal of the day and not one to be skimped in favour of mid morning snacks.

In the 'old days' when I was at school we didn't have any snacks at all, so fruit is a huge improvement!

Goblinchild · 09/01/2011 09:27

'students used to go from breakfast to lunchtime without really thinking about it: now they can't sit through a 45 minute lecture without sustenance. '

Like the stupid bloody water bottles. They sit slurping on them like babies with dummies, throughout a lesson.
Some of the Y6 are a particular pain with them, in a passive-aggressive 'Yeah, I know you're talking to me but I'll have a drink at the same time' way.
Feed your children on cocopops washed down with Irn Bru and provide a deep-fried marsbar for snack. I don't care and don't want to be made to care by the government.
But it's a rule, something OFSTED look for and a hoop to jump through.
Someone pass me the chocolate hobnobs.

seeker · 09/01/2011 09:27

earwicga

"schools are about pointless rules and breaking children's spirits so they can go work in pointless jobs and buy pointless shit for the rest of their lives."

You don't feel this statement is even the teensiest bit outrageous?

JoBettany · 09/01/2011 09:28

How true Goblinchild! Grin

Goblinchild · 09/01/2011 09:29

earwicga being controversial and outrageous?
Who would have thought it? Grin

Alouiseg · 09/01/2011 09:29

Protein for breakfast is filling and sustaining. Fruit has become an obsession, all it does is gives you a sugar rush and an insulin spike.

Peanut butter on wholegrain toast chopped into tiny squares and eaten before school will stop the hunger pangs.

Cereal bars and rice cakes contain very little nutritional value, if they were not fortified you be better off eating the cardboard they're packed in.

earwicga · 09/01/2011 09:29

No seeker, I don't. You are free to think it is though.

Alouiseg · 09/01/2011 09:30

The cynic in me totally agrees with Earwigca

earwicga · 09/01/2011 09:30

Sorry Goblinchild - just finished mine for breakfast Grin

activate · 09/01/2011 09:31

In response to "I'm sure she will adjust and eat a big breakfast" comment

no, they might not - many children find it difficult to eat in the morning - my eldest has never been able to eat until he's been up for at least 3 hours - since a small child - he will vomit if forced - no he won't grow out of it, he's 16

it's rubbish to say that children can eat big breakfasts

Goblinchild · 09/01/2011 09:32

Breakfast clubs were set up as a counter to crap eating habits and no breakfast children.

Bonsoir · 09/01/2011 09:33

Fruit is a very poor mid-morning snack (many people find fruit hard to digest between meals) and I don't understand why this rule is imposed on such small DC.

I think it is fine that older children be forbidden from bringing snacks to school, but reception DCs are still very small and many need a substantial snack mid-morning.

activate · 09/01/2011 09:35

no they weren't - breakfast clubs are in response to making schools have the responsibility for wrap-around childcare

and I wouldn't be confident of the quality of the food on offer, unless you have spoken to the cook and their suppliers of course and benefit from one of the formidable independent cook runs it rather than catering staff provided by mass educational caterers

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