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Is it possible to get a level 5 for reading in year 3?

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sali81 · 20/12/2010 21:16

I don't think that's possible, 4 maybe but 5??? Doesn't sound right! I would be grateful if there are any teachers out there who can clear this up for me? Thanks in advance!

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cansu · 22/12/2010 10:53

Norma - I suppose I am agreeing with these views then!

stoatsrevenge · 22/12/2010 16:08

nationalstrategies.standards.dcsf.gov.uk/node/20683

You can find the assessment criteria for all english levels there.

It will be hard for young children to get level 5 because of their immaturity and lack of life and reading experience.

PoppetUK · 22/12/2010 20:09

Just picking up on Goblinchilds point. My brother struggled to read until he was in Middle school. I was average nothing special.

My brother loves to read and reads all the time. I absolutely hate reading books. The only books I've in the past 6 years were about parenting / child development. I have very poor comprehension (I definitely feel like there is a missing link because I have to work so hard to get the meaning of things to sink in). I guess for me it's not that natural.

Doesn't mean to say I'm not good at other things. I absolutely love video editing as a hobby and could spend hours (if I just had the time) fiddling round. My kids have lovely memories that we can review all the time :)

I had a big thing recently because I was looking for my eldest daughter to be good at something because all I could here was other parents making proud comments. Well I don't know why I didn't see it sooner but my daughter might be average at school but boy she's very caring and a wonderful big sister. Definitely a level 3 in SATs if there was one for that. I've now realised that is her special gift to us all. :)

Sorry a bit of a ramble but just something I was thinking as I've put a big emphasis on the reading in the past.

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pagwatch · 22/12/2010 20:23

Ds1 was.
He got A* at gcse, is one of his schools best English students and has applied to do eng lit at uni.

But he was primarily a maths student until gcse level and was crap at art yet now it is one of his better subjects.
Childrens strengths and weaknesses, along with their passions and interests ebb and flow.

He remains shit at science and bedroom tidying.

PoppetUK · 22/12/2010 21:22

lol about the bedroom tidying!!! Hubby had the kids this morning whilst I died with flu in bed and judging by the destruction and lack of effort the kids put into tidying up I'll be the one asking when they are teenages to tidy up, put the seat down, put their shoes on the rack (bloody rocket science that :)). They are good at sorting clothes out into the correct baskets. It's only hubby that can't work out the lights and darks basket. The eldest two are 6 and 5! ggggrrrrr :)

Feenie · 22/12/2010 21:47

In y3, pagwatch? What was he in y6?

sali81 · 22/12/2010 22:01

I'm very grateful to you pagwatch for sharing your experiences you are right children develop at their own pace, it's all part of growing up, but one things for sure bedrooms will remain untidy

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pagwatch · 23/12/2010 11:42

Actually feenie he remained on level 5.

It is a long dull story but his wallowing was the reason we moved him. He hated the school and I only found out about how well he had performed at entry when we pulled him.

We hadn't realised how very able he had been until after the fact iyswim.
We kind of had to put him back together again at a new school

pagwatch · 23/12/2010 11:44

And Grin at revisiting this thread having spent the morning nagging encouraging him to Hoover..

So glad we are all in same boat...

Feenie · 23/12/2010 12:38

For 4 years? Shock No wonder you moved him.

mattellie · 23/12/2010 16:10

I don?t think there?s necessarily any connection between being a good reader and being able to analyse books ? they might go hand in hand but they don?t have to.

For example, I read trash fiction all the time, far more than DH does. But I have neither the ability nor the desire to dissect books in the way that he can (he has 2 English degrees and earns his living as a writer).

DD loves reading and reads constantly at the weekends and in the holidays (she}s read 4 books already this week), but as yet this shows absolutely no sign whatsoever of having a beneficial impact on her schoolwork Grin

pagwatch · 23/12/2010 19:56

Feenie
I know.
He had been unhappy for a while and asked if he could move.
We told the school. His teacher expressed strong doubt that he would be accepted at the schools we were applying to for him ... To himShockandAngry.

It was in the conversation following that that the very high grades he achieved at age 7 were discussed.
They revealed the results of all his sats and internal exams and testing etc. They were discussing in the context of his not keeping up... Hmm

He was accepted immediately into his chosen school and was offered a scholarship at another academic school.

The punch line was the teacher asked what we had done to motivate him to do so well in the exams..
"We explained to him he could leave here and never come back. "

tWas quite gratifying.

In fairness the school was good for many children. But not a quiet boy who was having enormous challenges at home.

Bit of an essay. Not sure why I detailed all tat except that I know it sounded like odd circumstances...

sali81 · 23/12/2010 20:22

"We explained to him he could leave here and never come back. " Grin
sorry your ds had to go through all that pagwatch but it came together at the end I suppose.

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onceamai · 25/12/2010 05:00

DS was L5 in Y3 for almost everything. In Y4 everything fell apart because his teacher refused to give extension work because she had to get others in the class up to the level they needed to be at!! Consequently DS was tranferred to independent sector. After years of trying to get the school to recognise his potential, they admitted when we wrote and said he would be leaving that he had been assessed as g&t in reception!

They used to whine annually that their result were hard to achieve because parents like us moved their children!!

sali81 · 25/12/2010 09:49

(onceamai)The nerve! I'm happy with the school where ds is at the moment, so I'm lucky there but I feel for all the parents who are struggling with their dc schools can't be easy. I am a bit daunted by the secondary schools am NOT looking forward to that. Any experiences or advice about secondary schools would be much appreciated especially the independent sector. Thanks!!! Happy holidays everyone!!!

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