nc levels

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If a child were to get a level 3 at the end of year 2 where would you expect them to be at the end of year 1 and what level would you expect them to be at now. Thanks.

To be at now in year 1 that should say.

Depends. Do you mean 3a, 3b or 3c? Afaik 2 sub-levels per year progress at primary in general. Wait for a primary teacher to come along!

Yeah that's why I'm confused cos if they move 2 sub levels then if they start working towards 1c at start of year 1 then 2 sublevels would be 1b at end of year 1 or 1a at best. Which in year 2 a sub levels on would be 2c and at best 2b I don't get how a level 3 is achievable.

In Year one/Year Two our LA expects children to move a level a Year e.g. they start at Working towards and move to 1A by Year 1, then to a 2A by Year 2. Level 3 is usually achieved by those pushed further. However, I believe average in Year 2 is 2B

2 sub levels doesn't apply in the infants.

Anything now is fine. :)

It's school depenedant but my school targeted all kids with 3 sub levels (ie a whole level) in Year 2.

But basically - don't, don't, don't worry. It doesn't matter if your kid gets a 2 or a 3 in KS2 - and there is absolutely no way of predicting now - almost 2 years out - what your child will get.

For your childs sake, please don't even think about it.

Ah thanks teacher that makes more sense.

Indigo bell I wasn't taking my kids into consideration I just didn't understand how it was possible that 50% of kids at their school achieve level 3 if 2 sub levels a year was the norm. I didn't realise that 2 sub levels a year didn't apply to infants. Thanks for explaining it to me.

Its all to do with points progress, one level is 3 points and therefore they are expected to make 6 points in the infants, but then in Key Stage 2 (4 years) they are expected to also make the 6 points progress.

Its 12 points progress in KS2. A level 2B counts as 15 points, a 4B is 27 points

For clarification. a level w counts as 3 points, each level is then 6 points, so level1 is 9, 2 is 15, 3 is 21 and 4 is 27. This is taken as the median point for each level, ie a 1b,2b,3b and 4b so each sub level is handily the same as a 2 points progress ( ie a 2c is 13 points, a 2A is 17! Children are EXPECTED to make 1 point per term but many schools aim for accelerated progress, basically as much as possible because it is only by "beating" this average points progress that your CVA increases-and that is what schools are measured against (CVA is contextual value added!)

Thanks for that spanieleyes, sorry I became confused with my numbers!

Don't we all!, 6 points per level, 2 points per sublevel, 3 points progress, 12 per key stage, it's no wonder we get spots before our eyes!