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Could somebody explain this to me?

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freckledface · 22/10/2010 17:24

Please...

I know nothing about EYFS/National Curriculum/Grades or what is expected. I went to DC's parents evening last week but didn't understand a lot about the steps.
Today we got the 'steps to progress' and ds is
Reading-1c
Writing-1B
Maths-1B

Are these okay? What do they mean? What I would have loved to know is what exactly he achieved/learnt to get these grades. Is there a way to know?

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MumBarTheDoorZombiesAreComing · 25/10/2010 22:57

Yes my CM had to do the same for DS who was 5 2 weeks befor yr 1 started. She purely had him from 8am until school and then until 4pm after he started full time. OFSTED wanted to know what activities she did for him!! ER.. road safety, toilet, drink, shoes on and home with Mummy!!! Felt a bit sorry for the woman tbh. She got an outstanding tho Grin.

OP I would say you DC is doing great, my DS was only a 1B writing when entering yr 2!! He's working as a 1A now.

Basically it varies from school to school but they like pupils to be a 1B or 1A by the end of year 1 - preferably a 1A so they'll reach a 2B by the end of year 2.

ramonaquimby · 26/10/2010 14:51

p scales are indeed pre nc levels - they were introduced to show progress in those children working below level 1. for years these children were not seen to achieve much of anything when if fact the opposite was true.

mrz · 26/10/2010 15:05

p scales are indeed pre nc levels - they were introduced to show progress in those children working below level 1. for years these children were not seen to achieve much of anything when if fact the opposite was true.
untrue

P scales are only for children aged 5-16 who have special educational needs and have yet to achieve level 1 NC. They are not for every child who is working below level 1

Simbacat · 26/10/2010 15:10

Not wanting to sound arsey but mrz and in are correct. P scales are for children with sen. They do not come before nc levels. Please look on nat strats or qcda website for guidance.

They were not not not introduced to show progress in children working below y1. They were introduced for children with sen for who pm nc levels were not appropriate.

Simbacat · 26/10/2010 15:11

Whoops sorry- meant level 1 not y1.

Simbacat · 26/10/2010 15:17

The P scales were written for use with children from the age of 5 to 16 who are working towards level 1 or who are working within level 1 and 2 of the National Curriculum for extended periods of time. P scales are not appropriate for use with children who are working below National Curriculum level 1 unless they have an identified and significant learning difficulty or disability

Found the quote.

ramonaquimby · 26/10/2010 15:55

if you read what I wrote you would see that I said the p levels were for those children who for years were not seen to achieve much of anything - ie those children with special needs.

I know they are for children with special needs. I have worked in special needs for many years

they do come before nc levels - how could they not if you progress up the p levels and then to level 1?

you're very quick to jump on posts!

mrz · 26/10/2010 16:50

they do come before nc levels - how could they not if you progress up the p levels and then to level 1?

I know this is pedantic but to say they come before level 1 indicates that they are a stage before level 1 whereas EYFSP comes before

Simbacat · 27/10/2010 12:41

They are a parallel assessment applicable for a small number of children.

Children can continue to be assessed against eyfsp in y1. For most children this would be more appropriate than p scales as they will make progress quite rapidly (especially younger boys and eal children).

For a very small number of children then p scales are appropriate. These children may well never be working at nc level one.

grumpyvamps · 28/10/2010 15:28

Sorry - meant childminder full time rather than attending reception at all. My understanding is that reaching compulsory school age doesn't mean that a child has to go to school - they must receive an appropriate education, and so could remain in nursery until Year 1. (obv HE is an option).

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