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Why did DSs teacher get his reading book level wrong

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ValentinCrimble · 08/10/2010 22:46

DS has just begun year 2 in his small independant school...10 in the class. they read the Ginn reading 360 books and though he is fine he is a bit bored by the stories and they push him a bit because he probably could do better...his level is as expected though so they are not at all worried and neither am I.

He was just coming to the end of level 4 last week and today he came out with a new book...I saw it was a different colour and asked his teacher who was next to me...Oh has he moved on to a new level? "Yes" she said..."now he's on level 4"

I said "Hasn't he just done level 4?" As I know he has completed it all...and she said "No" quite clearly.

Ilooked at his parent to teacher book on the way home which is a book where teacher and parent write feedback to one another on the DCs reading..and she had written clearly "Try level 4"

But when I got home, the new book is level 5! As I knew it should be! Is his teacher losing her marbles or is this kind of mistake usual? It seems odd that she told me verbally and had already written it down in his book!

She is new and very keen...so...am I worrying or is this kind of thing normal? I find it irritating as not sure now how DS is doing...and please don't advise me to stop stressing about levels...they stick to the levels in order in his school and I have been told that he needs to pull his weight a bit more about reading...he is very capapble when it comes to reading things other than what he has been given at school!

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domesticsluttery · 09/10/2010 09:13

DS2 (also in year 2)'s teacher once sent him home with a book that he had already read a few weeks previously. I asked him why he hadn't told her that he had already read it, he said that he had enjoyed the story the first time round and so was quite happy to read it again!

In the grand scale of things it probably won't alter his chances of an offer from Oxbridge...

dilemma456 · 09/10/2010 18:46

She probably just got mixed up with another child or got confused or just made a simple mistake. Main thing is he's on the right level and had the right book.

How do you find ginn by the way? Not many people on mumsnet seem to use it. Its all ORT. DD has just started level 3 and seems to be doing alright with it although she finds them boring (aren't all reading schemes!)

dilemma456 · 09/10/2010 18:47

sorry I mean not mean mumsnetters have DCs who use it (I'm not implying mumsnetters are all on reading schemes still!)

mrz · 09/10/2010 18:51

We scrapped all our Ginn 360 (donated them to a township school in SA) because like ORT they are a look and say scheme

NickOfTime · 09/10/2010 19:18

savoy - i do that, 'you, boy, what's your name again?' occasionally i even get the sex right.

ds1 has long been obsessed by rocks.

buy ng kids - fab Grin mine all argue over it.

ValentinCrimble · 10/10/2010 12:07

Dilemma456 I hate them and so does DC....boring....repetative....he likes HOrrid Henry....Rohl Dahl...so these just send him up the wall.

"Look said Mum, a squirrel!" Mum pointed to the quirrel and Jane clapped her hands."

Or words to that effect are NOT going to interest the average kid are they? It's annoying me because I feel he would get on better if the books were interesting.

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dilemma456 · 10/10/2010 17:02

How I agree with you Valantincrimble. This weekends book includes such phrases as

This is a good book

No this is not a good book. I do not like this book

What are you doing with that book?

Hardly exciting stuff. DD prefers Dr. Seuss I think. She had One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish from the library last week and loved it

ValentinCrimble · 10/10/2010 17:32

I wish someone would shake it all up and write some books with appeal....could they not get gifted authors to write a series? I mean the characters are so characterless! Kids this age like characters with flaws...naughty, greedy, whatever...they like proper drama and conflict within stories...not some po-faced crap about finding some blinking acorns in the yard!

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mrz · 10/10/2010 18:54

They are already available

Rigby have produced books by top children's authors and Songbirds were written by Julia Donaldson (the Gruffalo)

the problem is schools have invested £1000s in ORT & Ginn and don't have the money or the will to buy in new schemes.

mrsgboring · 10/10/2010 19:08

mrz I'm honestly not having a go at you, but why, if the books are not suitable for early readers, have you foisted them onto South African children instead of pulping them?

I'm a librarian and we were always being asked to donate our old books to Africa. It was our policy not to, as unsuitable/out of date books are unsuitable everywhere.

Everyone (me included) is too precious about simply destroying books that are not fit for purpose.

OP sorry for hijack. Sounds like you're all sorted on the original question anyway.

cazzybabs · 10/10/2010 19:12

btw this is a mistake i could because i will have moved 3 children up a level and then got confused with who is reading what .. but it is all written down so i won't be confused when i hear the child read

mrz · 10/10/2010 19:17

mrsgboring some of the books we sent were still in their plastic wrappings (so not out of date) and they were sent at the request of a teacher from the township school who thought any book was better than none at all when she saw we planned to "pulp" them.

ValentinCrimble · 10/10/2010 19:21

Mrz well something needs to be done...it's crap....having better books available but no money to buy them is awful.....would it help my DC if I were to buy a set to use in conjunction or would it hinder in your opinion?

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mrz · 10/10/2010 19:24

I never recommend parents buy reading scheme books for home

ValentinCrimble · 10/10/2010 19:30

Why?

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domesticsluttery · 10/10/2010 19:40

My DC have always practiced reading with "real" books. IMO none of the reading schemes (or at least none of the reading schemes that I have ever come accross) are that exciting, they certainly don't beat a well written picture book! Mine dug out all of their old favourites like The Gruffalo and had a go at reading them, which was much more fun.

phipps · 10/10/2010 19:43

I wouldn't worry too much but then my son has had 2 lots of maths homework with mistakes on, making it impossible to do the sum, and I am going to mention it if it happens again.

ValentinCrimble · 10/10/2010 20:08

Still wondering why I should not buy the good reading schemes for our own use?

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mrz · 11/10/2010 07:57

Of course you can but reading scheme books if you want it's simply I would never advice parents to do so.

TotalChaos · 11/10/2010 08:21

agree with domestic. it's good to encourage kids to read a range of books, including simpleish picture books that weren't designed as early readers. DS sometimes gets Rigby books from school - I agree that they are better than ORT but not sufficiently better to recommend you go out and buy a set! I'ld just go to the library, get a selection from the early readers section, and usborne do some nice early reader non-fiction books.

ValentinCrimble · 11/10/2010 10:16

If the schemes are totally replaceable with things from the library then why have a scheme at all? Why not have a large selection of great books for differing abilities?

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mrz · 11/10/2010 16:44

Reading schemes have their place. They are written for reading instruction in school and have a structure for progression but I would prefer children to enjoy sharing stories with parents at home rather than another scheme.

If you really want a scheme look at Songbirds written by Julia Donaldson
and my children are enjoying RagTag Rhymes which are very Dr Seuss like.

AlgebraKnocksItUpANotchBAM · 11/10/2010 19:07

I was wondering about that today as my friend was thinking of getting a set for her nearly-3yo.

My mum got us 2 sets of phonics books (ie controlled content) but we haven't used them other than as stories. What should I do with them?

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