Am i being overprotective?

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Hello all.
I have not eaten much and not concentrating at work because of what happened at school with my DS the other day.He has started year 1 I walked into collect him and was met the the TA who said hes been in trouble today (i feel if a TA wants to say something she should say "can i have a word please and take me to one side" rather than attacking me as soon as i am within site")for scribbling on the wall with two other children and has been at the deputy heads office and also will miss his break tommorow, they had been given a bucket and sponge and had to clean it all off (they had used bark from the ground to draw on an wall in the playground, which was already marked by another child) i felt the punishment to clean it up was fair, and to be taken to the deputys office was fair, but not to have faced the wall in the office and to have their following days break spent in the deputys office. he is only 5 and has just started big class so needs to be told of things like that in a nice manner and not so harshly, especially as in reception they were permitted to draw on the floor using chalk. the main problem i then expressed with the teacher the following day was it was not his intention to caus mischief or damage the wall intentionally. he is not a child who is naughty or would intentionally be naughty for attention etc. he is quiet shy. no questions were asked to who had started the drawings. i expressed to the teacher that i felt the punishment was harsh and she turned around and said in a rather high pitched telling of voice "not at all you would not be happy if he was to spray a bus stop and get away with it" i was shocked by what she had said. I have today called the school to make an appointment with the deputy to speak to him - not yet heard anything. does anyone think the teacher would have a grudge against my child if i was to make a complaint?
ps. a few years ago i was volunteering at the school in her very class - whilst there the teacher had used shut up to a child. I feel that is offensive, I have always told my child never to use those words?

please advise should i take this further with the deputy or accept that he is getting older and the punishment is correct.

I think cleaning it up and missing break was sufficient.
Standing facing a wall went out decades ago as a form of punishment.
Bit over the top in my opinion but I'm sure others will disagree.

Doesn't really compare to spraying a bus stop.

I don't think I would have reacted in this way to children that were using bark to draw on a wall. I agree that the TA sounds as if she was telling you off too, and she should have waited for a private word.

Facing the wall is not something that should be done to a child imo.

It is not the same as wanton vandalism. Making them clean it off was a good plan, I would have explained that we need to look after our school and just left it at that. I was a teacher when I worked.

sorry, so yes I think you should go in and ask why they over reacted so badly

i agree that the punishment was quite harsh. cleaning the wall fine, even going to see deputy head is ok... but dragging it all into the next day seems totally unnecessary. the teacher sounds a bit draconian, and comparing it to vandalising a bus stop is OTT.

I would like to think that a teacher wouldn't hold a grudge against your child if you made a complaint, but I guess there are some out there who might,

i THINK if it was me i would leave it for now, but if anything else happens then see the deputy head and speak to him/her about it and just explain your concerns

Teacher and TA both behaved rudely What's the general ethos of the school like?

If the child is NT, then it was a totally unacceptable thing to do though, wasn't it? They didn't know that the bark markings would come off, what if it had been permanent marker?

I think that the punishment was harsh, but perhaps they felt that this was one to 'nip in the bud'.

They're only 5, did they even know that drawing on an outside wall with bark was "wrong"? I worked in a nursery and it's certainly the kind of thing we wouldn't mind the children doing there.

At most all that was needed was telling the children they're not to do it again and making them clean it off. Their behaviour needed correcting not punishing.

My apologies - MoonunitAlpha has just made me realise that it was an outside wall. That does change my perspective a bit.

I would be really angry.
Children need to be tought the difference between right and wrong, but it's totally unacceptable to treat them in such a harsh manner.

I would be angry too...he's 5! They et carried away...it's the facing the wallthat I dont like. Go in there and tell them that you will not allow that again...and will tke it further if you her of it being used again...in my opinon they should have explained why writing on a wall isn't a good idea..and discussed grafitti and explained the difference between that and art..and had them clean it off...

Don't be scared of them...they're not the bloody police and you have a right to discuss your son and how he is treated...I would also lt my son know that I felt he had been treated unfairly...explain to him about grafiti and why the teacher overreacted...show him examples of ugly graffiti on the street...but let him know that he is not naughty.

Thanks for your all advice......
cornsilk - they have a strong ethos but i feel there is not enough passion in the teachers to teach. There seems to be no diffrentiation between discipline with respects to age.
I have decided I will talk to the deputy tommorow- if he does not call me back I will go there personally.

Thanks all