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Labelled by an IEP ?

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pinktortoise · 23/09/2010 16:32

At the beginning of Year 2 DS was put on an IEP for his literacy. There were no serious problems the teacher just said so we could both see how he was progressing. I was not unduly concerned as he is youngest in year and had in the past had hearing problems which lead to late speech.
Anyway he had weekly sessions and nothing much more was said.
At the end of year 2 the teacher assessed his reading and writing as 2B and said he had made huge progress. Again I was not surprised as coupled with a year of good teaching ( Year 1 was chaos) and the fact he was reaching age 7 I feel it was just when he was ready. She said to leave him on the IEP just to make sure he carried on.

DS(7) came home today and said he had been to SENCO for some writing practice with a few others. Is he being sent just because he is on an IEP? He is on higher reading books than the others who go and writes better.
I just feel that he has been labelled by his IEP - that to be honest I don't think he needs. He has no SENs.
The school is very middleclass with a very high academic standard.
Do I ask for him to be taken off the IEP ? Can I do that even?

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bruffin · 23/09/2010 16:45

Why would you stop him getting a bit extra 1-1? DS was on an IEP in primary and even secondary for spelling and writing issues. He is now year 10 top set and from his year 9 results will probably be forecast A/A* for GCSE and there have been murmers of preparing for Oxbridge. Having an IEP has been nothing but good for him

bruffin · 23/09/2010 16:47

Why would you be worried about him getting a bit extra 1-1. DS now year 10 and starting GSCEs has had IEPs through primary for writing and spelling, which was below average but way behind his other levels. He is now topset, will be forecast A/A* for gcse and there have been murmers of Oxbridge. Having an IEP has never done him any harm

bruffin · 23/09/2010 16:56

Also meant to say they may feel your son's reading/writing still don't reflect what he is capable of. This was the case with DS. I was told if the rest of him was average then he would not have got the extra help he did.

IndigoBell · 23/09/2010 18:27

writing practice - that could mean handwriting or anything.

I also don't understand why you're upset. For whatever reason they are giving him small group work. Could be the 'middle ability set' could be anything.

But they are certainly not going to be using time to help a kid who doesn't need help.

pinktortoise · 23/09/2010 18:38

Bruffin - well done to your DS sounds like he is doing very well. I see what you mean at turning down the extra 1-1 as why not let them have the extra.
What I was trying to illustrate was that although he is now at the required standard (in fact above now) he is still being treated as if he has a difficulty even though he doesn't. The IEP has labelled him as needing to go to the SENCO.
IndigoBell - I know that it is not middle ability set by virtue of the other people in the group and what I am saying is that they are using their time to help a kid who doesn't need help because the IEP has labelled him.

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Teacher401 · 23/09/2010 18:42

I'm a SENCO and an IEP doesn't 'label' a child, as you call it. First of all, how do you know he doesn't need support? Assessment levels are half the picture. There could have been lots of support given last year by somebody else and now he has moved year group it is the SENCO who does it for them.

Teachers aren't stupid people, if he didn't need the support they wouldn't waste their time. You need to find out what his targets are and whether he is achieving them or not. This isn't the same as being at age related expectation, it could be that his targets are above this.

grumpypants · 23/09/2010 18:46

An IEP should be reviewed, ideally three times a year. Get the copy of the existing one, check the date, and then bring it up in due course. Being on an IEP follows being identified as having additional needs. Your ds is probably at School Action for his writing difficulties, and therefore getting a bit of extra help, as set out in the IEP.

bruffin · 23/09/2010 18:59

The other point I was trying to make is that surely an IEP is about helping them reach their true potential rather than just the requiered standard

EmEyeHi · 23/09/2010 19:09

DD has an IEP - she told me the other day. She had one put into place when we moved primary schools that we were shown. I have not seen this new one. Are teachers obliged to show parents a copy of their childs IEP? Just wondering whether I should chase it up.

Teacher accessability is difficult these days - not because they wouldn't entertain you (IYSWIM) but because of the new safeguarding measures. It means a trip to the office and then getting the teacher out of class to arrange the appointment. Of course I don't have a problem with this at all but am wondering whether at least a discussion regarding DD IEP should be coming to me rather than the other way around.

EmEyeHi · 23/09/2010 19:13

BTW I welcome any extra 1-1 intervention given to DD. She starts secondary next year and feel she is benefitting greatly by this extra 'attention' now whilst she is still at primary.

I have never considered whether or not it is a label until reading this thread. I hope it is not.

cat64 · 23/09/2010 19:50

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cansu · 23/09/2010 22:27

You appear to see having an IEP as a
negative. I am also wondering how you know that your ds is at a higher standard than the other children who are receiving extra help? If having an IEP has helped your ds to reach the required standard, why would you be concerned about his IEP. As others have said, the school staff are not going to provide extra 1:1 to a child who doesn't need their help. I would be careful about insisting he is taken off an IEP. If at a later stage, you feel your ds does need extra help, you're going to feel a little silly for having made such a request.

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