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No scores on end of Reception Report.

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minimathsmouse · 19/07/2010 22:07

I have just received my son's (DS2) end of Reception Year report. Not only is most of the teacher assessment incorrect but it gives no scores.
From reading other threads I have deduced that almost all reports give a score from 1-9 in the various areas covered under EYFS.
I wondered if other parents from other schools had also received reports that do not include scores.
Also would be greatful if anyone has any ideas as to why some schools report scores and others don't.

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thisisyesterday · 19/07/2010 22:14

we didn't get scores

apparently they aren't supposd to give out "raw" scores because they're misinterpreted. as on many of the threads you may have read on here

BoysAreLikeDogs · 20/07/2010 00:28

what has the teacher incorrectly assessed?

DreamTeamGirl · 20/07/2010 00:31

we got no scores either, but the report is totally fine otherwise

camaleon · 20/07/2010 10:25

We did not get a score either, but I am far from glad about it, since the score does exist and we could work it out from the EYFS posted here in MN.

I find it incredible that schools try to 'protect' us from our ignorance and misunderstanding of scores. If scores did not exist and they were not assessing according to very clear criteria I would be fine with it. It is the fact that they think it is OK to hide part of the information for our own sake (or the child's sake) what I cannot understand.

Reminds me of those doctors who used to lie to patients for their own sake too.

coventgarden · 20/07/2010 10:31

You don't get scores on year R reports ime.

Quite right too.

tribpot · 20/07/2010 10:36

We didn't get scores either. I would have been horrified if we had.

Concordia · 20/07/2010 10:45

i'm with camaleon on this
I won't tell the teacher she has given the wrong scores as i accept that she knows best and children may be different at home / school, but i would be interested to know what scores are given. why should i be penalised and not told information because some other people might disagree with the teacher.

emy72 · 20/07/2010 10:58

We didn't get scores either, although if you really want them you can map them across as most of the wording on ours maps on to the EYFS and corresponds to a score.

Do you feel that the report is very out or are there certain areas that might be and others that are not?

The difficulty with the EYFS in my opinion is that it is based on observation and sometimes the teacher might not have observed a child doing what they can do at home - I think this happens a lot.

If you think that the report is wildly inaccurate then it might be worth going in for a word - if however it is LARGELY accurate then I would leave it at that.

camaleon · 20/07/2010 12:07

Why are some of you 'horrified' of getting scores?

Without MN I would have believed the report was just a nice report about my child abilities, coinciding more or less with what I see at home. I have known here that scores exist and there is a way of knowing if your child has been 'clasified' among performing above/below average or just average.

Why is that information reserved to the best informed parents? I may understand the reasons to be horrified of categorising kids at this age, but why would you not want everybody to know the information that school has about their child?

I am very new to the school system and I may be missing something here.

daisy243 · 20/07/2010 12:11

I wasn't "horrified" to know my dd's scores for reception. Why is it so awful? Granted she did very well but had she had gained average or below average I'd have been pleased to know.
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mrz · 20/07/2010 16:46

minimathsmouse schools are required by law to provide a written summary of the progress the child has made against the Early Learning Goals. If parents request it they must be given a copy of the profile. There is no requirement to provide scores which are pretty meaningless unless the child scores 0 or 9

mrz · 20/07/2010 17:02

camaleon no one is hiding anything from you the report is a summary of the progress the child has made against the ELGs (points) but put into words rather than a series of meaningless numbers. As a reception teacher for many years if someone said Child A has scored SD6,ED 7,DA 5,LSL 8,LCT 6,R 6,W 7,NLC 8, C9,SSM 5,CD 8,PD 6, KUW 7 it wouldn't mean a great deal

archstanton · 20/07/2010 17:08

No but those are the sections the reports are split into anyway. So KUW refers to knowledge and understanding of the world, yes?

Why don't they send home the profiles instead of a report at the end of Reception just adding a bit for general comments?

ProfessorLaytonIsMyLoveSlave · 20/07/2010 17:11

We got the EYFS profile (listing of all the levels for all the categories together with notes of DS's progress and attached evidence and observations) and a separate report later.

The report didn't reiterate the stuff from the EYFS profile but went more into other areas or (academically) looking at stuff beyond the EYFS profile.

I was not astonished to find that "Consider the consequences of [his] words and actions" was still a bit of a challenge for DS...

mrz · 20/07/2010 17:34

Yes KUW refers to Knowledge and Understanding of the World and covers Geography, History, Science, Religious Education, ICT, Health Education ... now which bits does a score of 7 equate to?

Lots of teachers have problems deciding what the statements in the profile actually mean in relation to what real children do and there is always a great deal of debate when awarding points which is why the legal requirement is to summarise what a child has actually done.

Although with some schools/areas using the
e profile to generate the reports often they are little more than the actual statements .

archstanton · 20/07/2010 18:18

Well I have a print out of the points 1-9 relating to each area so I know what each point means. I also know that you cannot get a 9 if another part is missing and a couple of point 8s appear trickier than the point 9s!

I should also say I teach juniors but have no more knowledge of the EYFS than the next mum other than listening to our Reception teacher complain that it is not moderated properly and that she cannot believe that her own DD scored 112 and that so many 9s are given out by other R teachers.

minimathsmouse · 20/07/2010 18:19

I am with Cameleon in respect to the scores. I would like to have seen the scores and had a written summary giving some evidence to it.
What I have actually received is a few fluffy sentances unders each of the six headings.
The report basically sets out what my son enjoys doing. It seems to have been written from a child-centric view point. Where it gives any indication of achievement it does not accurately reflect what he can do.
It seems wrong that only some parents are given the benefit of seeing the end of EYFS scores, seeing their child's folder and receiving acurate information.

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mrz · 20/07/2010 18:24

as I said you have the right to ask to see it but it schools aren't required to provide them just a summary which should be more useful.

mrz · 20/07/2010 18:26

but archstanton do you know which of the points in each area a score of 6 relates to?

foxinsocks · 20/07/2010 18:28

probably because they are age 5, in fact some of them are still 4

lol at wanting scores for that age group! They have enough of that coming over the next 14 years of their lives!

archstanton · 20/07/2010 18:41

Well I can type out what it says point 6 is under each heading on my sheet. Is that what you mean?

So point 6 on first strand in personal/social says something like,
'continues to be motivated and eager to learn.'

singersgirl · 20/07/2010 18:43

We weren't given scores when my DC finished Reception. Honestly, the scores aren't much use; surely a comment from the teacher is much more useful. As some people have said, 9 can't be given unless all of the other 8 points have been. So you get anomalies like children only getting 7 in 'use of numbers as labels' because teachers haven't observed them independently using mathematical strategies to solve things (point 8), even when they can read, write and order numbers beyond 1,000.

I can see why you'd be interested, but, honestly, it's not important and not much use to either you or your child.

mrz · 20/07/2010 18:46

I'm afraid not archstanton a score of 6 doesn't necessarily mean that a child has achieved point 6 under any of the 13 headings

mrz · 20/07/2010 18:47

So I'm assuming you don't know what a score of 6 means

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