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Take struggling with 11yr old DD

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NeedSleepNow · 24/11/2024 12:09

I really don't know what to do anymore as in struggling so much with my 11 year old daughter. She has always been very sensitive, worries a lot about things, struggles when there is change from the usual routine. 3 years ago her Dad and I separated and she has really struggled with the idea of change, moving house and her dad has not helped things by complaining about me to her a lot and he doesn't handle her anxiety well. She will no longer stay with him at weekends anymore, she just sobbs wanting me, refusing to leave the house and he just yells at her that she is a spoiled brat - his relationship with her and oldest DS is not great but he has a good relationship with youngest DS.

DD started secondary school in September and is doing well, excelling academically and is a model student based on feedback from parents evening but homelife is a very different story. She now screams and shouts at us, sobs uncontrollably, has meltdowns about anything and everything from the moment she wakes up to the moment she falls asleep. Bedtime takes hours, she calls me up to her room at least 10 times a night screaming that she feels sick, has tummy ache, headache, sees strange shapes, hears noises, wants me to check no one is under the bed, is worried about dying or people she loves dying. It is exhausting, I'm a single Mum to the 3 children (14, 11 & 3), they go to their Dad's every other weekend. I'm workinh full time in a job I hate that is completley inflexible with no understanding, I'm in the middle of the divorce and desperately trying to find a house to buy as the former family home is now being sold. I cry with exhaustion most days and don't know how to help DD and it is really impacting her brothers now too. One of them asked me very concerned the other day what is wrong with her after she rolled on the floor screaming and kicking for 5 minutes over something tiny.

I have often wondered if she is Autistic. She has had sensory issues with clothing and food since she was very little. She likes predictability and routine and any change to that causes such anxiety for her. When she started primary she started going to the toilet frequently, the first morning she went 20 times in 2 hours. Then she worried she wasn't dry and would wipe herself over and over until red raw, after covid her anxiety was around germs on her hands and she would scrub them until they bled.

I really don't know what to do. She's a model student at school. She may not be autistic but if she is how do I go about getting her a diagnosis and support, I think she might hate having a label and feeling different from others. Would it help or change anything for her? I don't think her Dad would support it, he just thinks she's a brat wanting her own way and would accuse me of trying to mature an issue out of something that he thinks is my fault (he thinks I should be tough and make her stay with him, even if she's kicking & screaming as she's just wanting her own way).

Sorry for such a long post, I would be so grateful for advise on how to handle this!

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NeedSleepNow · 24/11/2024 12:11

Sorry typo in the thread title but I don't know how to change it! It was meant to say Really struggling...

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calmandcollected101 · 24/11/2024 12:19

I'm so sorry to hear about your DD

She needs therapy (I'm a therapist)
A mix of person centre counselling with CBT to reduce / manage the anxiety will help.

If you want to try family therapy, Systemic Therapy is good.

Talk to her lots, give her lots of love and spend time together doing different simple things.

scandinista · 24/11/2024 12:22

You can't fix this on your own. Talk to the school and try and get a joint referral to CAMHS. Can you afford private therapy in the meantime? Join forces with the school, your ex h and your GP. She needs you to help her.

UnbeatenMum · 24/11/2024 12:33

I think an autism assessment would be a good idea. She sounds unsettled by the divorce but you have described challenges from well before that time - sensory issues, difficulty with routine change etc. It's usually through CAMHS at this age but using 'right to choose' can be quicker. Your GP might be a good starting point and maybe seeing the SENCO at school. A good SENCO will be interested in behaviour outside of school and whether the school environment contributes to that even if the child is well behaved in school.

NeedSleepNow · 24/11/2024 12:33

scandinista · 24/11/2024 12:22

You can't fix this on your own. Talk to the school and try and get a joint referral to CAMHS. Can you afford private therapy in the meantime? Join forces with the school, your ex h and your GP. She needs you to help her.

Unfortunately I just can't afford to go privately at the moment as money is so tight with the house move.

I spoke to the school when she first started secondary to let them know about the house move and DD's relationship with her Dad causing anxiety but things are so much worse now. They put her on the waiting list for one of the counsellors that comes in to school but it's likeky to be a few months before they have any spaces. She was having play therapy at primary school. I will make an appointment to see the school again and see how they can support her.

Her Dad won't be supportive in any way, I know he will try to twist it as a reflection of my parenting and why the boys should go and live with him instead.

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NeedSleepNow · 24/11/2024 12:35

calmandcollected101 · 24/11/2024 12:19

I'm so sorry to hear about your DD

She needs therapy (I'm a therapist)
A mix of person centre counselling with CBT to reduce / manage the anxiety will help.

If you want to try family therapy, Systemic Therapy is good.

Talk to her lots, give her lots of love and spend time together doing different simple things.

Thank you, I've never considered family therapy.

I try to give her the time and a safe space to excited how she is feeling but I'm really struggling to split what little free time I have between the three children.

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NeedSleepNow · 24/11/2024 12:38

UnbeatenMum · 24/11/2024 12:33

I think an autism assessment would be a good idea. She sounds unsettled by the divorce but you have described challenges from well before that time - sensory issues, difficulty with routine change etc. It's usually through CAMHS at this age but using 'right to choose' can be quicker. Your GP might be a good starting point and maybe seeing the SENCO at school. A good SENCO will be interested in behaviour outside of school and whether the school environment contributes to that even if the child is well behaved in school.

Thank you, unfortunately I haven't heard great things about the senco at they school but I will speak with them and see what sort they can offer. DD is worried that any counselling/therapy at school will highlight to her peers that she is struggling as she would need to miss lesson time for it and people would ask where she was and why. She has already given up her school music lessons for the instrument she was learning as she was becoming anxious about missing lesson time and falling behind.

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TheZingyPlumPombear · 24/11/2024 12:51

Hi, your DD sounds very much like me when I was younger. I'm autistic with ADHD. I masked and struggled to keep things together at school but managed it. As soon as I got home Id just fall to pieces. I was constantly using the toilet and also had OCD tendencies and was so anxious. I wasn't diagnosed until recently in adulthood because of high masking. I didn't have delays other than social when very young but I was just seen as being very shy. You could maybe phone an autism helpline for advice. You sound like a lovely supportive mom.

NeedSleepNow · 24/11/2024 14:34

TheZingyPlumPombear · 24/11/2024 12:51

Hi, your DD sounds very much like me when I was younger. I'm autistic with ADHD. I masked and struggled to keep things together at school but managed it. As soon as I got home Id just fall to pieces. I was constantly using the toilet and also had OCD tendencies and was so anxious. I wasn't diagnosed until recently in adulthood because of high masking. I didn't have delays other than social when very young but I was just seen as being very shy. You could maybe phone an autism helpline for advice. You sound like a lovely supportive mom.

Thank you, I really needed to hear that today. Sometimes I feel like I am failing them all, trying to be everything to everyone all of the time and never wrote managing.

My DD was seen as very shy when young, she wouldn't leave my side. She has a really good group of friends now but she dies struggle with the dynamics of some of the friendships and the dramas that teenage girls can have.

She's finding the start of puberty hard. She hates the fact she is growing hair everywhere and can't stand it when she gets a lot of discharge throughout the month. It's a really sensory problem for her and frequently won't go to her after school activities if she has a lot of discharge as she said it just feels horrible to have that and then be moving around at dance or sports clubs. I'm dreading it when she starts her periods.

Thank you for the suggestion of an autism helpline for advise I will have a Google and see if there are any organisations with helplines that could give advise.

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