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How do I encourage humility in 10yo DD without harming self esteem?

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Travelsweat · 09/02/2024 07:30

She is vain. It sounds horrible, but it’s true. She is constantly saying things like, “I’m so glad I’m beautiful” and “I’m so glad I don’t have chubby fingers like some of the other kids in my class” and “My hair is so nice, I’m really proud of it.” She doesn’t have a phone and personal appearance is not really much of a topic of discussion at home. We don’t talk about other people in terms of their looks. I have personal experience of how destructive it can be to be raised by someone who puts a lot of value on looks, so whilst we don’t completely avoid complimenting appearance, we try to praise other traits like kindness, hard work, and empathy more than appearance. The only thing I can think is that she is one of the older girls in her year, and many of her peers (according to her) tell her she is pretty all the time. She is also a bit of a trend setter; for example, after we bought her winter coat, 3 other girls in her class went out and bought the same or similar. I think all of the peer affirmation has maybe gone to her head.

Now, as her mother, I also think she is a pretty girl, but I worry for her that she is beginning to think that her value as a person is mainly tied to her appearance. I also worry that she’ll put that value system on other people. I don’t want to raise a Regina George. She has so much more to offer the world than just her looks, as do her friends.

How do I gently encourage some humility whilst not harming her self esteem, which I suspect is actually quite fragile underneath the bravado? I am really glad she feels beautiful when so many do not at that age, but I don’t want to raise the kind of person who places all of her value (or the value of others) on it.

Help!

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FictionalCharacter · 09/02/2024 09:06

So she isn't saying these things out loud in public, just to her mum? What's wrong with talking openly about how you feel about your looks to your own mum in private? She isn't boasting to her friends. She isn't hurting anyone. It would be very sad if you knocked her down when she talks about her looks. It's better for her to be pleased with her looks than constantly complaining about every little flaw like most girls do. As her mum you should build her up, not pull her down.

We go too far in telling girls to be humble and modest. So many girls grow up to have terrible self esteem and poor confidence, as we see on MN constantly. We don't do this to boys. Look at at how many men have the confidence to do jobs that are above their ability, while very capable women hang back because they don't think they're good enough. This isn't surprising if mothers don't let girls praise themselves, and constantly make them focus on praising others instead, as so many people on this thread are encouraging OP to do.

mirror245 · 09/02/2024 09:30

There's nothing wrong per se in her feeling confident about her appearance. It's the comparison with other children (chubby fingers) that makes her sound unkind and who hold looks higher in esteem. All kids say things that are unkind/ poorly thought through (we all do) but when my dd does it she's told it's unkind and we discuss the implications of that.

Mariposistaaa · 09/02/2024 09:44

Praise her for her achievements in her schoolwork, hobbies etc, and for nice personality traits (like if she helps someone or is kind). TOTALLY ignore anything regarding looks. Give her zero attention for it.

shearwater2 · 09/02/2024 09:48

Model it by how you talk about yourself and others.

It's nice in a way that she is so positive though, many kids are the opposite. This may change anyway when she is in her teens, or even before that.

GingerIsBest · 09/02/2024 10:04

Yes, I also wondered if she's actually looking for affirmation? I think I'd probalby be a bit casual about it "Oh, yes, you're super pretty DD but I like the way you make me laugh even more than that"

k1233 · 09/02/2024 10:18

Next time she says something about her wonderful appearance, tell her that external appearance is only one factor and true beauty comes from the inside. It's her actions, how she treats people, her humility. Nobody likes vain, self centred, inconsiderate people.

Anyone can be beautiful on the outside. Not everyone is beautiful on the inside and that's the beauty that counts the most.

pastypirate · 09/02/2024 14:44

I don't think high self esteem around looks is a negative though not v British.
It's the negative comments that would bother me - the chubby fingers comment. I come down on my dds like a ton of bricks about this kind of thing. Making derogatory remarks about others even in private needs to be dealt with appropriately imo.

My dds seem to get a lot out of watching films with me like mean girls and miss congeniality or anything that discusses gender norms. We talk a lot about 'doing womaning wrong' and how womens value in the media etc is all around how attractive they are. My dds are 11 and 14. One is v timboyish and the other is all for tiktok and skin care and blah but they seem to equally enjoy questioning what's being sold to them as success for females. I'm hoping I'm teaching them not to be fooled by the dream of beauty and perfection.

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